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  1. #11
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    Sani2341's Avatar
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Uh, if a a healer or DPS is pulling hate off of me before I've finished my pull and got everything situated, then they need to bring those mobs over to my AoE. I wouldn't be "running" after any mob.
    That's a nice utopia you got there where others actually do that more than half the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Demetri_Delethorn's Avatar
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    Limited Edition
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    That's a nice utopia you got there where others actually do that more than half the time.
    I very rarely, if ever, see people not fixing their mistakes when they do this. I do believe most people know to bring any pulled mobs to the tank.
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    Why do people come up with arbitrary and fake complaints to fuel problems that don't exist?

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Overpower was one of the reasons i swapped away from WAR to DRK when playing through the game the first time. Swapping between cone and circle every single gcd was far more annoying than i was willing to put up with on trash pulls. I'm glad the cone is dead.
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    Kemiko Oyung
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    Because it is jank to swap 2 targeting schemas between 2 constantly cycling skills. It's not skillful, it's just messy. Now if they had've changed them to be BOTH cone then that would also be fine, whichever, but the two skills should both use the same scheme whichever way they went.
    I was actually about to say the same thing. The fact that its aoe combo (and also SAM's for the record) didn't follow the same aoe shape did in fact make it clunky. The difference between the two interrupted the fluidity of the job. I also agree that forcing the player to constantly go from cone to circle in their spammed dungeon combo was not indicative of any amount of skill.
    I would've actually preferred it to be cone > cone as opposed to the circle > circle we got, just to maintain some differences between tanks but the change was a desired one.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    I very rarely, if ever, see people not fixing their mistakes when they do this. I do believe most people know to bring any pulled mobs to the tank.
    Lucky you.

    because in my experience, the slight majority just wait for the tank to come grab the mob.
    and a not insignificatn amount of ranged and healer palyers jsut run away in a panic, esü. when you run lvling roulette
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  6. #16
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    So now aoe is nearly all a circle around the caster or target to make it less "tedious".

    Positionals are probably next on their list...
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  7. #17
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Why not make all button 50y aoe. That oughta fix everything.

    /s
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  8. #18
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I've only dabbled a bit in WAR but I never found it bothersome to switch between cone and circle.
    Another thing I noticed when not on tank is that WAR are usually best at keeping mobs stacked because of their different aoes while many tanks tend to just stand in the centre with huge hitboxes spread around them, making any targeted circle aoe miss half the pull.
    WAR's cone aoe was a skill that taught the good habit of making sure to keep mobs stacked and reposition for it every now and then.
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  9. #19
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Tank aoes could certainly use more range, at the very least your 1st combo skill far to use to how overpower works...
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  10. #20
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Even if WAR was consistently cones, which would be better than the inconsistency, cones are still inferior to 360 degree AoEs.
    During a pull, mobs naturally crowd around the tank, forcing you to constantly reposition every time you use your cone attack. Maybe this wasn't all that apparent before when you were forced to reposition every single GCD anyway because you were swapping between cone and 360, but if they just made all of WAR's AoEs cones, you'd still be playing it the same stupid janky way.
    And if you play multiple tanks at all, the inconsistency is jarring. You build up a natural sense of when a mob is in range, so that you can run through the pack and AoE at the right time to grab them all. Having a cone completely throws off this sense.
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