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    Player
    Guesswhat's Avatar
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    Aira Comet
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 100

    What new Frontlines feels like



    I mean... it's true.
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    Qynden Peltier
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    More like Afflatus Purgationlines. So tired of that LB.
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    Cute Milk'itkatt
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    If you ask me, falling back on CC spam means you can't make good pvp
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    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I liked the old pvp with next to no crowd control. No idea why they think people not being able to move their character and use abilities is somehow more fun. Guessing they don't like playing the game so they figure the more time you spend not being able to play it, the happier you will be!

    Me, I like playing the game. Moving my character. Using the abilities.

    Maybe I am just weird that way.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    PvP with no crowd control is terrible pvp. Its what lead to healers being unkillable.
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    Sidamel Wyndfyre
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Not really because it depends on their healing abilities however like many things in life something inbetween both extremes would be right.

    Current mass CC is as bad as having no CC. Only considering CC we actually had a rather good balance before.
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    Ailin Dorne
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    PvP with no crowd control is terrible pvp. Its what lead to healers being unkillable.
    Implying we even have pvp healers anymore lol. It really wouldnt be hard to pressure both of WHMs Cure2s out without CC.
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    Player
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    Aira Comet
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    PvP with no crowd control is terrible pvp. Its what lead to healers being unkillable.
    It really depended on the skill of the healer vs the ones trying to kill them. In reality, 3 skilled DPS should easily kill a healer, no matter how skilled they are. 1 on 1, my monk could absolutely melt a scrub healer in 4 seconds, but next to impossible vs a skilled one.

    And I don't think anyone is arguing there should be no CC. But there is a middleground.

    Perhaps bring back the immunities to FL, and make the LBs not activate as fast?
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Guesswhat View Post
    It really depended on the skill of the healer vs the ones trying to kill them. In reality, 3 skilled DPS should easily kill a healer, no matter how skilled they are. 1 on 1, my monk could absolutely melt a scrub healer in 4 seconds, but next to impossible vs a skilled one.

    And I don't think anyone is arguing there should be no CC. But there is a middleground.

    Perhaps bring back the immunities to FL, and make the LBs not activate as fast?
    I'd honestly prefer the LB's do something else. Nothing like having full health and then suddenly being deleted by a ninja.

    As for immunities, purify scould be on a shorter CD with longer immunities and that would fix a lot of problems.
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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    PvP with no crowd control is terrible pvp. Its what lead to healers being unkillable.
    Going from little crowd control to being lucky if you get to actually play your character is much worse.
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