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    Eric Hyuinn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90

    After reading the patch notes, I guess I won't play SAM anymore

    Aside from Third Eye extended duration, every change seems to homogenize Samurai to be just like any other DPS, or even worse.

    There was no reason for Tenka Goken to be changed from a cone to circle, and nothing was changed to address what every SAM player suggested (merging shohas, ogi namikiri, guren merge with senei). If every job AoE is a circle, none of them will feel special or unique, you just go in the dungeon and do the same thing with a different attire.

    Not only that, they made Wanderer's Minuet change into Pitch Perfect which was Literally what we were asking to change in Ikishoten / Ogi Namikiri. It's almost as if the devs don't share ideas or don't want to help each other.

    As far as potency goes I can't say much about it. I know it'll probably do the same overall DPS but certainly does not feel nice to read your 990 potency skill (with kaiten) that could crit went to 600 but always crit.
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    William Hart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyuinn View Post
    Aside from Third Eye extended duration, every change seems to homogenize Samurai to be just like any other DPS, or even worse.

    There was no reason for Tenka Goken to be changed from a cone to circle, and nothing was changed to address what every SAM player suggested (merging shohas, ogi namikiri, guren merge with senei). If every job AoE is a circle, none of them will feel special or unique, you just go in the dungeon and do the same thing with a different attire.

    Not only that, they made Wanderer's Minuet change into Pitch Perfect which was Literally what we were asking to change in Ikishoten / Ogi Namikiri. It's almost as if the devs don't share ideas or don't want to help each other.

    As far as potency goes I can't say much about it. I know it'll probably do the same overall DPS but certainly does not feel nice to read your 990 potency skill (with kaiten) that could crit went to 600 but always crit.
    If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

    These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

    These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.
    Where the heck are you even getting Dark Souls or like. Anything of what you said from the OP post?
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    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    Nemene Damendar
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    "DPS healers barely healing"

    Ah, we have another DPS main who doesn't know how support classes work. Opinion discarded.
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    Yuki Bajhiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

    These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.
    I love a good dogpile, so...

    What the hell does this have to do with SAM?
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    Jin Wa
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    Before checking I bet they left the meditation system untouched. So now we have two useless bars to fill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Before checking I bet they left the meditation system untouched. So now we have two useless bars to fill
    They nerfed Shoha from 580 to 500 potency, so technically Meditation stacks are even worse than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

    These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.
    Imagine coming on a post about SAM and ranting about Dark Souls and Healers.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    is funny because most of dark souls isn't even that hard. It just requires patience, observation and knowledge of your equipped weapon so you don't burn out of stamina or get mobbed to death. Till you get to a boss or an enemy with nastier moves then you learn how to dodge

    It might be me but i find casters in souls and ff14 to be more similar than expected.

    Edit: reading the notes on ninja in the patch reading, I can't tell anymore if its yoshida himself of the job designers that are all for homogenisation
    Nor can I tell which was the one that eventually caved to making drk have an invul they can use after 7 years
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    Last edited by Recon1o6; 04-11-2022 at 10:39 PM.

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    Samurai Lv 90
    I really hate the new changes, I'd rather have the old SAM instead. I will level Reaper I guess.
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