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  1. #1
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    Wyznberk Zwynbrodasyn
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 90

    Why does WAR get a high damage aoe gap closer stun in PVP?

    The bias for WAR by SE is insane. They always have to make sure their golden boy can stand at the top of whatever they do and this is just another example of it.

    In PVP they have Primal Rend. An AoE stun (2 seconds) that does 8,000 damage to everyone in range (16,000 when under Limit Break) and they can cast that every 15 seconds and it acts as a gap closer. Why? GNB also has an AoE stun that last for 3 seconds and can do 12,000 damage, but can only be used under Limit Break.

    Poor PLD has a stun every 15 seconds as well, but it only do 4,000 damage and you have to right on top of the person to even use it as it's single target. Intervene is supposed to act as a 2nd stun for PLD (2 charges are only 2,000 damage each which is just ridiculous for damage output), but doesn't even work and people have pointed this out since 6.1 launch and SE didn't even bother to fix this simple mistake in the hotfix which is just pathetic. Doesn't help that the stun on Intervene only seems to be mentioned in English so there's no proof that it will even stun once it all gets sorted out.

    SE needs to stop showing their bias and put tighter restrictions on who ever balances the jobs since they seems to have a hard on for WAR when ever they can get away with it.
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    Last edited by Abomination713; 04-15-2022 at 03:59 AM.

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    DRK in Pvp has literally 1 ranged option period. They literally have no counter play or options to just running away from them. I have a hunch the more people play it the more they'll realize how limited PVP DRK is.

    Imagine my surprise when I go to WAR, and they have 3 ranged options, and a much better stun game to boot.
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Hol' up. WAR is in the garbage can for pretty much everything that isn't PvP, and ya'll are having a cow over it? How dare it excel slightly in this one area of the game.
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Hol' up. WAR is in the garbage can for pretty much everything that isn't PvP, and ya'll are having a cow over it? How dare it excel slightly in this one area of the game.
    That WAR which kills nm raids alone?
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    Barachim Vandal
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    So that was the bs I encountered. I don't mind a gap closer that stuns on impact, so they actually have to hit you. But when I was running towards a warrior, I was suddenly glued to the ground, as the only thing I could do was to watch them hurl towards me.
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Hol' up. WAR is in the garbage can for pretty much everything that isn't PvP, and ya'll are having a cow over it? How dare it excel slightly in this one area of the game.
    Either this is a troll post or you're very misinformed
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    Raevus Astra
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    People rioting that WAR is finally good in pvp and pve after being highkey neglected for expansion on expansion? My word.

    What's that? It isn't even meta in PvE? Inner release is bad for synergy with crit buffs?

    WAR has always been good in PvP from Shadowbringers. Let it do it's thing.
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Hol' up. WAR is in the garbage can for pretty much everything that isn't PvP, and ya'll are having a cow over it? How dare it excel slightly in this one area of the game.
    What game do you play, because it obviously isn't FFXIV
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    people actually arguing that a class should allowed to be broken in pvp just because its not the top pick in pve lmao.

    Like PvE WAR isn't even that bad, you're not gonna get kicked for playing it. Its pretty good even, tryhards just go for the one that has the biggest number.
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    Raevus Astra
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Ofc it's always DRKs complaining about what other tanks have that they don't, and then we wonder why the pve rotation is oGCDs+ budget inner release and get job homogenization.

    WAR is not so far above the rest of the cast that it needs a nerf. Not like they should nerf anything off week one opinions anyway. For the record, DRK is very strong too, and one of the best jobs at controlling space if you know how to play it right.
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