6.1 PvP: Amazing!!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.

This is what happen when they try to make the content accessible to players who does not like said content with a carrot on the stick. It attracts funny individuals.

[AnnRam]

Nerf / rework healers ( WHM / SCH) doing over 5 -6-7million damage per match no matter the PVP mode its insane/ ridiculous they are dealing 3 times more damage than SMN/DRG/SAM.

Fix purify because it doesn't prevent CC only removes it 1 time.

Guard sometimes doesn't block 90% of damage and bahamuth limit break still hits you for full damage ( happened to me twice )

SAM LB shouldn't do 58500k damage, MCH LB can't one shot people unless you are heavily debuffed.


Bring back CC immunity you shouldn't be chain stunned/silenced / pushed .

[SturmChurro]

This is what happen when they try to make the content accessible to players who does not like said content with a carrot on the stick. It attracts funny individuals.

I don't plan on playing the mode after I finish the battlepass for this season. Not until the next season, and only doing it because of fomo.

[KageTokage]

It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.

You can't "adapt" to being matched with a bunch of lemmings who think it's a good idea to repeatedly keep charging into 1v5 situations while expecting to not get instantly melted.

As another poster mentioned, it also feels like some people just aren't using most of their buttons judging from how abnormally low their damage dealt/healed values are at the end of a match.

[Avenheit]

besides the major unbalance issues - MCH and RDM are op, ninja can't die. samurai LB sucks unless kuzushi which doesn't last long enough and doesn't apply sometimes. WHM forever can heal. and RPR just sucks on all fronts.

that being sad, I do enjoy pvp. its really fun.

[Banriikku]

I like the fast paced PVP over the dragging one from Frintline but lets be honest PVP is not balanced at all. I got CC locked for sweet 10 seconds because WAR dont need resource management.
And CC from a distant ? You mad SE ? Why is healing on AST limited but WHM can go enrage with it and so on but still fun ^^

[Ryaz]

It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.

I play Destiny 2 PvP quite heavily as well. Much like Crystalline Conflict, matchmaking is the biggest complaint most people have, with lower skill players being placed against the best in the world or matches where a single good player is matchmade with several bad players against a team of decent players. What happens is this drives away lower skilled players and those who feel they're being screwed over by matchmaking, which kills the population in the end.

When you don't have control over who you play with and don't have the ability to carry a team solo, no matter your skill level, it's not going to feel good.

That's honestly my biggest complaint about it.

[Fukuro]

It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.

I agree to a certain degree, but it is no secret that WAR for example is dominating. And not to forget WHM abusing the „Cure“ bug. On the other hand you have jobs that are basically useless atm like BLM. There needs to be some balancing, but it‘s kind of a given because the pvp changes just got released. The jobs are getting still tested, but WAR being a bit obnoxious for example is kind of obvious.

[gioroggia]

IMO it should be treated as a beta. That's what it is. It wasn't thoroughly tested - we are testing it now.

[Zaniel]

When you don't have control over who you play with and don't have the ability to carry a team solo, no matter your skill level, it's not going to feel good.

That's honestly my biggest complaint about it.

See this here is what I mean. You NEVER have control over your team mates in ANY PVP game, the only thing you have control over is your own performance, it doesn't matter if it's FF14, League, Overwatch, D2, whatever. There are so many players in these games that statistically for every time you get 3 idiots on your team the other guy has 3 idiots on his. If you concentrate on your own game-play then you WILL climb if you improve. This isn't to say that one game feels great, it doesn't but CC addresses 90% of this issue by 1) having a pretty wide latitude to performance carry and 2) Super short matches.

This concept has to be re-explained again and again and again in every ranked PVP game and even then people just refuse to believe it, the raging about "teammates" just goes on and on. People just can't accept that ELO works and to stop worrying about your teammates.