"Button Bloat"

[HyoMinPark]

Do expect me to write an disclaimer on how and when to use macros? that macro wasn't an order, just a suggestion for something we already can do ourselves or do you want to beg the devs for years until they do? funnily enough a Dragoon change of 6.1 is that jump turns into illusion jump, which I had as a macro for years.

Yes. Because you can’t shove a suggestion in someone’s face without also pointing out that utilizing combat macros has its downsides. You should always present the pros and cons of macros when suggesting them. Especially when you insist on doubling down on the suggestion:

though they wanted to address the button bloat and took Kaiten away. My Macro addresses the Button Bloat by making you pressing the same button 3times, try my Macro before saying it doesn't matter^^ but funnily I also have Shoha and Senei on a one button Macro xDD I tell you

I wonder how much damage you’ve lost out on with your poor macros. Or how many times they’ve misfired. More than you probably realize, I’m guessing.

we get a Single Target Ogi with 7.0 and there is nothing wrong about this

Yes there is, because it just adds to the redundancy and bloat problem. You do not need AOE and single target variants of the same skill when you already have AOE cleaves that are also viable in single target.

Okay Senei is redundant for providing the solution to the single target situation while using the same resource as Guren? Great that AoE falloff stuff is a thing on other jobs, then play those other jobs, I like to play Samurai and the removal of Kaiten is what keeps me from enjoying Samurai

Yes, it is redundant. Because Guren in SB already did what Senei does now. There was zero reason to add a second skill that did the same thing except was single-target.

And please with the “go play something else” response. Tired of seeing this non-argument. Come up with something better.

but SE did that, DRG has a 3tier AoE Combo that buffs the AoE Combo Starter and Single Target Combo Starter making you able to switch the Single Target Rotation and vise versa, but that's Dragoon not Samurai.

Okay and SAM already had an AOE rotation akin to DRG’s 3-tier AOE combo. And they also apply the same self buffs now. This is an irrelevant argument because it has nothing to do with the Guren/Senei and Shoha/Shoha II redundancy. Or even the Shinten/Kyuten redundancy.