button bloat

[Zorvan]

So changing the Kenki gauge to a "PRESS THE GLOWY BUTTON FOR DAMAGE!" is better than managing your Kenki to get the damage buff and getting a SWEET animation to boot? Please stop speaking for Samurais like you know how to play one. Managing Kenki is pointless now, you just slap the glowy button until you have no more kenki, not fun really.

Most people animation cancel, so your "SWEET animation" means absolutely nothing to them.

[Broken_Wind]

The Dissidia Final Fantasy mobile game has more engaging content than XIV does and you have 7-9 buttons there depending on the character. and a whole bucket load of diversity between characters to boot.

I mean, that game also has about 99% of its content faceroll easy (including coop content) with only the latest Lufenias or whatever they are up to now being challenging

[Jkap_Goat]

I just want to tell Square enix that I'm glad you made My FFXI Dancer have more than 40 abilities and included the subjob system so I can use half of that job's abilities which I sometimes go Warrior or Thief ( I did go subjob White Mage once)

the job is has alot of depth to it

it's really fun and I love that I can support and heal my party with Curing Waltzs and be a healer if the White mage or Red mage or Geomancer dies

or using Fan Dance If I need to be a Tank for a bit or just reduce taking damage

thank you SE!

[Tsukino]

I miss "mission girls."

[gamerseb]

I wouldn't mind combining different combos into single buttons a la pvp. Mods do that already.

As a controller player, everything is possible due to swapping extended crossbars, but some classes are fairly uncomfortable to play. That would go a long way into making them more accessible and not really much simpler.

Can't do this with every class though, but RDM and DRG come to mind. Not compressing all their combos, but at least the 123s, leaving rest of weapon skills separate.

SAM and MNK get more complicated because of their rotations, though.

[Dzian]

So changing the Kenki gauge to a "PRESS THE GLOWY BUTTON FOR DAMAGE!" is better than managing your Kenki to get the damage buff and getting a SWEET animation to boot? Please stop speaking for Samurais like you know how to play one. Managing Kenki is pointless now, you just slap the glowy button until you have no more kenki, not fun really.

Shinten isn't fun either it's just another extra damage button.. but combat on the whole isn't much fun which I referenced in my earlier post. Every encounter you follow the same old dull boring static rotation from muscle memory and basically requires single digit brain cells to pull off.

The amount of thought required is negligble. Patch 6.4 lands months from now and everyone knows what rotation they'll use because it's the exact same one they use now... BORING.

The point I was aiming to make is the combat system could be a shed load more engaging even if it only had 6 buttons or so that the op mentioned as long as those buttons carried weight and impacted the fighting some fashion... where XIV has a shed load of buttons and most of them just do a bit of extra damage... Shinten exists only to keep players artificially engaged in that 2 seconds between gcds because players would get so bored if they had nothing to press...

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo there are various ways to minimize button boat (some in terms of ToS some are of course not so I won't go in to detail.)

ToS Legal I believe are:

In-game macros (not ideal but works)
Not certain about keyboards that allow macros..I assume since you are still there at the PC there should not be an issue its not as if you are afk etc.. but I am not certain about this nor would they really have a way to check if you are using a programmable keyboard.

Since the dawn of SNES I remember having a turbo controller that would spam a button so I could "test my might" in MK lol Could do it manually but why when you can just hold a button down lol

Course you could be like some and spam one or two buttons in normals and nobody really notices kupo haha savage they would but normals..eh you can get away with 1-5 buttons.

[Ronduwil]

ToS Legal I believe are:

In-game macros (not ideal but works)
Not certain about keyboards that allow macros..I assume since you are still there at the PC there should not be an issue its not as if you are afk etc.. but I am not certain about this nor would they really have a way to check if you are using a programmable keyboard.

Going off of Yoshi-P's past statements about ACT, I think this is probably against ToS, but they will likely never check for or enforce it. They don't want to get into the business of invading their customers' privacy by scanning our systems for third party hardware/software that violates the ToS. As he put it, where do you draw the line? Do they go after 16-button gaming mice?

As far as in-game macros go, they've deliberately designed the macro system in a way that makes the in-game ones completely worthless for serious fights: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post1520788

The wait time is always in second intervals, and the half second difference between a manually executed rotation and a macro will effectively cut your DPS down by about 33%. If you're just running solo content then go for it, but I wouldn't recommend it for group situations and difficult fights.

[forsakee]

Can I downvote? for real tho please leave our abilities alone and don't make this game even easier.

[YukiB]

Can I downvote? for real tho please leave our abilities alone and don't make this game even easier.

Sorry, forum rotations only have one button.