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  1. #11
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Coming into FFXIV lost on what activity I wanted to delve into, I knew regardless of my choice want to main SAM. The first FC I joined I got told I sucked as DPS... not wanting to fall into a victim mentality I wanted to proof myself wrong.

    I practiced hours and days at the striking dummy... to the point I don't even need to look at my Hotbars to help me focus purely on mechanics. The feeling of accomplishment I had to see my practice bearing fruit, finishing my first Savage Raid, E9S, at the time even with Echo at Lv80 was amazing.

    I got parse shamed, but I didn't care, I had a lot of fun. I'll improve and I'll keep practicing. Thus it didn't stop there, I started helping random PF parties and players clear E9S E10S and E11S, the savage fights I was struggling with.


    I joined a random E9S party one day to help out and I remembered it like yesterday... where we got questioned " why 2 Samurai's? " and sure that was not optimal, but this Samurai had the E12S chest piece I didn't have nor cleared... must be more experienced then me let me watch how this SAM does the fight.

    And as soon was the boss wanted blast us with " Wide Angle ", the SAM moved in such manners that I didn't knew was safe. " Like we can do this? " making me learn the concept of " Melee Uptime ". We wiped but I was like " I should mimic this person "... and sure enough I started performing better and better, and then came " Anti-Air " and again the SAM revealed more ways of handling it then spamming Enpi. I even thanked the Sam for indirectly teaching me.


    That was the moment for me where realized the complexity of performing my rotation, with the challenge of having as much up-time possible that made Samurai INFINITELY more enjoyable.


    My parses aren't stellar, but I could care less... I proven I am worth raiding with, and the difficulty of Samurai as low as people meme it to be? helped push me to become a better player. Often times I don't get compliments in real life, but Samurai felt so satisfying to execute that it even helps my depression ever so slightly.

    Removing and dumbing down the complexity I see does not help any of this, it just does the opposite, and I feel like it just devalues every experience I went through both the good and the bad. That's what hit me so much reading your post... From my 6 months to your 8 years...I can only imagine what I missed out on, but more so what more will be missed on if things change for the worse, and I refuse to have it change for the worse.
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  2. #12
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    May 2014
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    Ul'dah
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    462
    Character
    Ryu Kusanagi
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    thinking of "reducing button bloat" on Samurai.. I just have the idea of turning Tsubamegaeshi into a trait so you just double tab Iaijutsu, maybe removing Fuga and give us Fuko from the start, making space for future for 7.0 where we get a Single Target Ogi, which I call right now. These are changes I would think of when changing Samurai but Kaiten is an active button, removing that makes seriously no sense and makes me question if they really play the game? because in 2.4 when NIN launched funnily similar things happened where the player had a better rotation than the devs and final coil melted.
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  3. #13
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    Arno_Dorian's Avatar
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    Character
    Artorias Wayfarer
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    True but I really doubt the devs will even read our words. I mean, it’s so frustrating that I am considering quitting my favorite job. This oversimplification somehow tells me that “you are not our target client” which makes me feel humiliated and ignored.
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  4. #14
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryu Kusanagi
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    this outcry is too severe to be ignored.. though funnily.. they brought a change to Dragoon that I had as a Macro for years! that Jump turns into illusion jump xD
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  5. #15
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    Apr 2022
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Shalltear Bloodfall
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Im a Samurai main and I want Kaiten back. I feel so empty without it. I personally don't care about numbers, but I do care about how a job plays. Being able to manage your Kenki gauge was really engaging and fun! It felt so good to have just enough Kenki for Kaiten and seeing your Kenki gauge go to zero after you use Kaiten for Ogi Namikiri. Being able to manage your kenki throughout a whole fight makes the job so satisfying. It just shows how well you are playing. Plus the animation flowed really well! Just pressing Shinten and keeping 25 Kenki for Senei just feels boring. Please bring 6.08 Samurai back! There are plenty of videos out on Youtube saying the same thing and even pointed out ways to fix the "button bloat" even when there wasn't any. I play on a controller and other controller players will say the same thing.
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  6. #16
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    KYuuma's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Ninthe Villieth
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arno_Dorian View Post
    True but I really doubt the devs will even read our words. I mean, it’s so frustrating that I am considering quitting my favorite job. This oversimplification somehow tells me that “you are not our target client” which makes me feel humiliated and ignored.
    It's more like "you're not playing our head designer's favorite job and instead picked the OTHER selfish DPS. You deserve to be punished for that."
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  7. #17
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    Revert these sam changes NOW
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