Bring Back Kaiten

[VeolE]

I don't have to have played at level 90 to experience the effects of LotD and holding onto eyes. What a weird gatekeeper you are hahahaha. "YOU DIDN'T PLAY ALL JOBS AT 90 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID CHECK MY PROFILE I CHECKED YOURS"

I don't enjoy holding onto eyes. If I have the power of two eyes I want to use them. Why would you object to getting into LotD every 30 seconds anyway? It's just more nastrond and more consistency. Do you even like playing the game or do you just want to show how flexible you are and how elite you are at optimization?

This game is designed for fun, it's not a job.

I kinda just lost brains cells from all of that yapping

[ZiraZ]

I don't have to have played at level 90 to experience the effects of LotD and holding onto eyes. What a weird gatekeeper you are hahahaha. "YOU DIDN'T PLAY ALL JOBS AT 90 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID CHECK MY PROFILE I CHECKED YOURS"

I don't enjoy holding onto eyes. If I have the power of two eyes I want to use them. Why would you object to getting into LotD every 30 seconds anyway? It's just more nastrond and more consistency. Do you even like playing the game or do you just want to show how flexible you are and how elite you are at optimization?

This game is designed for fun, it's not a job.

Thought so, you have no clue what you're talking about and every post you make on every single thread regarding any job comes purely from a place of hatred and bitterness towards anything resembling complexity, optimization, uniqueness and the 'elite' boogeymen. Even jobs you have zero interest playing, they must be brought down, and if people don't agree then they are using 3rd party scripts and are weebs for liking kaiten animation.

[HikariKurosawa]

Thought so, you have no clue what you're talking about and every post you make on every single thread regarding any job comes purely from a place of hatred and bitterness towards anything resembling complexity, optimization, uniqueness and the 'elite' boogeymen. Even jobs you have zero interest playing, they must be brought down, and if people don't agree then they are using 3rd party scripts and are weebs for liking kaiten animation.

Awh you're trying so hard to push a narrative.

[Zolvolt]

Thought so, you have no clue what you're talking about and every post you make on every single thread regarding any job comes purely from a place of hatred and bitterness towards anything resembling complexity, optimization, uniqueness and the 'elite' boogeymen. Even jobs you have zero interest playing, they must be brought down, and if people don't agree then they are using 3rd party scripts and are weebs for liking kaiten animation.

To be fair, most people who claim theres any job complexity in this game don't know what job complexity even is. Every job in this game is easy to play and easy to optimize with. Thats what happens when you design a modern actionbar GCD mmo with a playstation controller in mind. I hate this arguement that "you feel x way because you don't like complicated jobs, or optimizations or x y z high player thing"

It's a bit much because ffxiv are some of the easier to play classes across all major mmo's right now. They are extremely simple, you only have one way to properly play the classes with very few exceptions (blm I am looking at you) and many of the jobs share multiple abilities. I mean honestly look at energy drain on scholar. People clutch their pearls for energy drain optimization being the only thing that makes scholar "difficult" or "challenging". It's an absolute joke how simple of a mechanic that is. FF14 classes are not complicated in anyways. Their optimizations are just the only thing people have to look forward to doing. When you go into a new raid you don't get excited for "how many new ways can I play my job" you get excited for the new mechanics you have to adjust to. In other mmo's you have to actually play your class differently and with different abilities depending on the encounter.

Hearing "my complexity! my optimizations!" is so tiring because, really, how hard must video games be for people if ff14 classes are considered complex or challenging

[mallleable]

This is gonna be a hot take, but keep Kaiten in the bin, BUT give SAM Hissatsu Soten from PVP, and let it buff Kaeshi skills. To experience why I would have such a take, go to Wolves' Den Pier on SAM and find a striking dummy. Use Ogi Namikiri, and weave in Hissatsu Soten before using Kaesihi Namikiri on the dummy (Ogi > Soten > Kaeshi). Such a maneuver would be incredibly risky, and highly rewarding, and it's the kind of funk I want to see more of in PVE.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I really don't want another expansion of shinten spam for SAM I must say. Hoping sam has some other spenders beyond that for DT. I still have kaiten on my bar, but given it's not back for DT I think I can safely remove it. A shame it was a really nice flavour for the job imo.

Still enjoy the job and I am excited to play around with it's new skills but I think I will do that later in the tier.

[Alice9]

I'd like Kaiten back.

[SeverianLyonesse]

Not sure if anyone has made this point yet, but with the combo consolidation feature there is now PLENTY of space for Kaiten in hot bars/hot crosses.

[HikariKurosawa]

Just make a kaiten emote that can be weaved in. Then the weebs will be happy.

[Taranok]

Just make a kaiten emote that can be weaved in. Then the weebs will be happy.

Nah. The correct solution is to upgrade Third Eye into Kaiten, and just make it work exactly the same but give slightly more kenki so they have an excuse to use the superior animation.