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  1. #311
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    Zolvolt's Avatar
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    Job changes in an mmo are like reading different chapters of a book. You only read a book one direction. The Kaiten chapter is over sorry friends. You'll never have that version of samurai back.
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  2. #312
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    Gisela Thorne
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    What is it with the job trailers bringing out all the freaks who only seem to get enjoyment out of this game through schadenfreude?
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  3. #313
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    Shiroe Lelouch
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    What is it with the job trailers bringing out all the freaks who only seem to get enjoyment out of this game through schadenfreude?
    I think that's the kind of player Yoshida wants in his game.

    I mean, most players are nothing more than a reflection of the heads behind the game, so if the community is toxic, it's because the devs are toxic to begin with, or at least the way they run the game is toxic.
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    sorry for my bad english
    R.I.P DRG

  4. #314
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    Hikaru Kurosawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuroashi_sanji View Post
    I think that's the kind of player Yoshida wants in his game.

    I mean, most players are nothing more than a reflection of the heads behind the game, so if the community is toxic, it's because the devs are toxic to begin with, or at least the way they run the game is toxic.
    What's toxic? Wanting the game to be more accessible and celebrating jobs becoming less convoluted, or crying about changes that enable more dynamic encounter design with the same difficulty balance?

    "R.I.P DRG" is this not a toxic mentality? It's a game, you don't have to base your enjoyment on rotations being so complicated that they have to make boring encounters to compensate for how involved the rotations are.

    Same with you people constantly calling it "braindead" for jobs to have more streamlined rotations. The irony of your perspective, it's just so out of touch with reality.
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  5. #315
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    kuroashi_sanji's Avatar
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    Shiroe Lelouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    What's toxic? Wanting the game to be more accessible and celebrating jobs becoming less convoluted, or crying about changes that enable more dynamic encounter design with the same difficulty balance?

    "R.I.P DRG" is this not a toxic mentality? It's a game, you don't have to base your enjoyment on rotations being so complicated that they have to make boring encounters to compensate for how involved the rotations are.

    Same with you people constantly calling it "braindead" for jobs to have more streamlined rotations. The irony of your perspective, it's just so out of touch with reality.
    It seems that the shoe fits. lmao
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    sorry for my bad english
    R.I.P DRG

  6. #316
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    Zira Zira
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    What is it with the job trailers bringing out all the freaks who only seem to get enjoyment out of this game through schadenfreude?
    It's easy when they don't even play the game to begin with.
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    It's easy when they don't even play the game to begin with.
    My favorite forum posts are
    "you don't even play the game"
    "you don't play anything besides duty roulette"
    "show me your logs otherwise you have never done x y z content with out proof"

    All of these things are posted by angry forum posters who can't stand that people don't agree with them. If your only rebuttal to someone's opinions is to bully them and act like they don't play the game then it just makes you look foolish.
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  8. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    My favorite forum posts are
    "you don't even play the game"
    "you don't play anything besides duty roulette"
    "show me your logs otherwise you have never done x y z content with out proof"

    All of these things are posted by angry forum posters who can't stand that people don't agree with them. If your only rebuttal to someone's opinions is to bully them and act like they don't play the game then it just makes you look foolish.
    ok but hes not wrong here.
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  9. #319
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    Zira Zira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    My favorite forum posts are
    "you don't even play the game"
    "you don't play anything besides duty roulette"
    "show me your logs otherwise you have never done x y z content with out proof"

    All of these things are posted by angry forum posters who can't stand that people don't agree with them. If your only rebuttal to someone's opinions is to bully them and act like they don't play the game then it just makes you look foolish.
    Actually I was referring to forum posters that are only here to enjoy watching jobs being destroyed because they don't have a stake on anything and spend more time on the forums than on the game, but ouch that's a lot of projection.
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  10. #320
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    Hikaru Kurosawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Actually I was referring to forum posters that are only here to enjoy watching jobs being destroyed because they don't have a stake on anything and spend more time on the forums than on the game, but ouch that's a lot of projection.
    You joined this forum 11 months after I did yet have twice as many posts as me lol. Oh the humanity they removed kaiten samurai is destroyed!! it's only shinten now!!! what will we dooooooooo!!! Samurai is too easy it's only shinten and absolutely nothing else!!!

    Imagine spreading false narratives to pretend your opinion is the only legitimate one when people post something that isn't in line with your specific views. It's almost like some people are genuinely happy that kaiten was removed from a gameplay perspective and post on the forums to celebrate the change that they feel was good for the job. I am posting in this thread so that it is not allowed to become an echo chamber. I want kaiten to stay gone because I prefer the way the job plays now. That's all. If everyone like me avoided posting, all the devs would see in this thread is negativity and disdain for the removal of kaiten. If you're going to make threads like this, it is important for me to express my differing opinion.

    I couldn't care less that you think the job was "destroyed" because they removed that cheesy animation and interaction between kenki and iaijutsu. I only care that you don't get to create an echo chamber. Does it bother you that you're not succeeding in creating an echo chamber in this thread?
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