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  1. #21
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
    World
    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    SAM has 36 buttons because instead of simply making Shoha upgrade into Shoha 2 and Ikishoten turning into Oni Namikiri, they made them into their own actions and instead of rectifying that, they decided to remove a skill that actually required proper thought and resource management to utilize.

    It was an asinine decision that did nothing but make the Kenki Gauge into little more than the Shinten guage and addressed "button bloat" in the worst way imaginable.
    Kaiten requires no thought and minimal resource management.

    Them removing it takes that to 0 yes, but it was almost nonexistent before...


    It needs a rework, but kaiten going is not the main problem. The job was basically broken in 6.0 and needs a good fixing. 5.x sam was the best version, and I found 4.x sam more enjoyable and better flowing than 6.0(8).
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    muchichi's Avatar
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    Vadis Jack
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Kaiten requires no thought and minimal resource management.

    Them removing it takes that to 0 yes, but it was almost nonexistent before...


    It needs a rework, but kaiten going is not the main problem. The job was basically broken in 6.0 and needs a good fixing. 5.x sam was the best version, and I found 4.x sam more enjoyable and better flowing than 6.0(8).
    Once muscle memory kicks in Kaiten does not require much thought that doesn’t mean remove it though. It was still a very satisfying part of the SAM rotation. It was like a lightning strike before the thunder claps. Silent then BOOM!
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  3. #23
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Kaiten requires no thought and minimal resource management.

    Them removing it takes that to 0 yes, but it was almost nonexistent before...


    It needs a rework, but kaiten going is not the main problem. The job was basically broken in 6.0 and needs a good fixing. 5.x sam was the best version, and I found 4.x sam more enjoyable and better flowing than 6.0(8).
    Broken is subjective and given the MASSIVE backlash from basically everyone across all 3 communities, I don't think it was.
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