Please think of better ways to lessen class skill gaps than removing abilities.

[Silver-Strider]

Threads like this are always full of hyperbole.

SAM has close to 36 buttons, 1 is removed, everyone: omg in a year we'll have one button to press, sky is falling!

SAM has 36 buttons because instead of simply making Shoha upgrade into Shoha 2 and Ikishoten turning into Oni Namikiri, they made them into their own actions and instead of rectifying that, they decided to remove a skill that actually required proper thought and resource management to utilize.

It was an asinine decision that did nothing but make the Kenki Gauge into little more than the Shinten guage and addressed "button bloat" in the worst way imaginable.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

SAM has 36 buttons because instead of simply making Shoha upgrade into Shoha 2 and Ikishoten turning into Oni Namikiri, they made them into their own actions and instead of rectifying that, they decided to remove a skill that actually required proper thought and resource management to utilize.

It was an asinine decision that did nothing but make the Kenki Gauge into little more than the Shinten guage and addressed "button bloat" in the worst way imaginable.

Kaiten requires no thought and minimal resource management.

Them removing it takes that to 0 yes, but it was almost nonexistent before...


It needs a rework, but kaiten going is not the main problem. The job was basically broken in 6.0 and needs a good fixing. 5.x sam was the best version, and I found 4.x sam more enjoyable and better flowing than 6.0(8).

[Silver-Strider]

Kaiten requires no thought and minimal resource management.

Them removing it takes that to 0 yes, but it was almost nonexistent before...


It needs a rework, but kaiten going is not the main problem. The job was basically broken in 6.0 and needs a good fixing. 5.x sam was the best version, and I found 4.x sam more enjoyable and better flowing than 6.0(8).

Broken is subjective and given the MASSIVE backlash from basically everyone across all 3 communities, I don't think it was.