Eventually the skill ceiling will be how hard can you faceroll 1 button on your keyboard ex. Healer and no argument will change my mind. IMO if you just took the HW class design and did a couple tweaks everything would be just fine. Buuuut Yoshi Grandmaster P already said HW is never coming back, so I guess I will have to live with the decreasing amount of skill needed to even play at a decent level and diminishing returns on pumping 500 hours into a class to learn every little cool thing that gives you satisfaction. Guess I'll just play PvP since that's what they want.