Please think of better ways to lessen class skill gaps than removing abilities.

[muchichi]

If "button bloat" is an issue please do something similar to Summoner where abilities sort of automatically change. There are a few combos in the samurai's kit that would allow that.

If the changes made were to make the disparity of dmg during Sam's opener hopefully you can adjust that without removing abilities that were fun, engaging, and looked cool. Dont see why Kaiten couldnt have stayed, lower the potencies even further and still give them auto crit. Idk if thats a good idea, I do know that my favorite class sucks to play a lot more. I do not care that much about the numbers. I am just here to have a good time.

[Kolsykol]

Imo skill gaps are fine, and it's already reflected in the content as it is.
It's a scale depending on the content that you do and content where being on the higher end of the skill ceiling even matters is content where more skill in general is required.
People who can't clear the new EX for example aren't going to suddenly be able to clear it because Kaiten was removed, the removal of it isn't going to help it.
All it does is upset people who it even mattered to to begin with.

I saw someone suggest to make Kaiten cause the skills to crit which I thought sounded good.
The devs could solve their crit issue as they saw it without screwing around with the gameplay.

[muchichi]

Imo skill gaps are fine, and it's already reflected in the content as it is.
It's a scale depending on the content that you do and content where being on the higher end of the skill ceiling even matters is content where more skill in general is required.
People who can't clear the new EX for example aren't going to suddenly be able to clear it because Kaiten was removed, the removal of it isn't going to help it.
All it does is upset people who it even mattered to to begin with.

I saw someone suggest to make Kaiten cause the skills to crit which I thought sounded good.
The devs could solve their crit issue as they saw it without screwing around with the gameplay.

yeah its really weird how people are excited about this change. One button was the reason you couldnt play SAM at a decent level...one button you press sometimes? Ok.

[kpxmanifesto]

Ah, ability pruning. We follow in the footsteps of wow.

[Kolsykol]

Ah, ability pruning. We follow in the footsteps of wow.

Soon they'll turn women into fruits.

[muchichi]

Ah, ability pruning. We follow in the footsteps of wow.

im dreading it. Ability pruning is almost never the way to go. If anything give us more options to swap in and out.

[Momo_Kozuki]

As long as SE keeps considering about nuking buttons for the sake of console players in future expansions where more skills will be added, the simplification won't stop.


Veteran will grief, but casual will rejoice.

[Kolsykol]

As long as SE keeps considering about nuking buttons for the sake of console players in future expansions where more skills will be added, the simplification won't stop.


Veteran will grief, but casual will rejoice.

Do casuals really rejoice tho?
Like I've said before I think people severely underestimate casuals, I think most casuals still want it to be engaging and pose at least some challenge.
I don't think that casuals wanted Kaiten removed, why was it never brought up and complained about before then?

I've even seen people complain about Shinten but never Kaiten.
I just don't think that most casuals are so bad at the game that Kaiten was so hard to use for them, which I mean I am sry but if Kaiten was a problem then yeah...
It's the same in action games like DMC and Bayonetta, I still think casuals want to do more than just button mash.
There's a ton of people who are casuals who gave Elden Ring a shot too and ended up loving it, sometimes I think people kinda just don't know what they want and I wouldn't trust people who don't even have SAM leveled up beyond Stormblood or don't play it at all to lecture others about how SAM should play.

I just don't think that the bar for casuals are that low that they can't perform their base rotation properly or that they find it so hard that they want stuff removed.
I think that's something people bellow casual engage with.

[Broken_Wind]

Why do people assume this is a skill issue vs simply making the game more fun (which is obviously different for different people)?

If it was just a skill gap thing why did they change Monk the way they did for EW?

not saying I agree with the changes made, but I don't think it is necessarily a skill gap issue at all.

[Nethereal]

Why do people assume this is a skill issue vs simply making the game more fun (which is obviously different for different people)?

Because Yoshi has admitted that he balances certain content with people getting carried in mind. Has also has a self admitted inclusivity agenda.