Housing failure... Again, and a few other comments

[UkcsAlias]

You... have no idea how botting works, do you? Like literally none? A nigh infinite pool of accounts with mounds and mounds of gil.[/s]

It doesnt matter since the restriction of a 30 day old FC was told less than 20 days ago. So all those bots will miss out on the first lottery cycle. Sure, some might have been an FC, but even then, its highly unlikely that for every 4 bots they had an FC.

And thats how the bots got excluded.

[Recon1o6]

I think there's 3 reasons why a lot of people aren't going after the ishgard plots, and its the same reason I'm not looking to move up to a large there from the medium I got by sheer luck early shb

1. The outdoor space is about a third to half of the size of similar plots in mist, at least for larges and mediums. I could fit 2 regalia end to end from door to gate and still have room left over in mist. In empyreum I couldn't do that.
2. Ishgard has quite frankly, views as depressing as the goblet which is the unpopular of the previous 4 districts. 2 of the 3 mansions and about half the smalls look straight at the walls on either side, the environment is mostly monotone grey and the mountains in the distance arent exactly nice to look at when most of the time its cloudy
3. The layout of ishgard's housing leaves something to be desired with a lot of stairs and odd market board placements

also friday is probably the day most tickets will enter since thats when everyone is free.

[DiaDeem]

I would rather sit around clicking a board all day

I legit wanna ask: Have you ever done that? Did you ever engage with that system personally before?

I bought my first house in Behe, and then had to get another one when I moved to Levi (lost the Behe house upon transfer). Then there's the house for our FC.
There's nothing more soul crushing and horrifying than losing a plot to someone else (often a bot) after 4 - 8 hours of camping and clicking. You could be using that time for anything else, and instead you're losing your mind to a placard.

Or you could buy a 3M small for 100M in the black market...

My Behe house took about 34 straight hours to get. My Levi house about 7.
FC House? About 3 months... with several 8 hour click sessions throughout. And my story is hardly special or unique.
The experience was draining and exhausting both mentally and physically.

I ask because to me it seems absolutely insane that anyone would want to submit themselves to placard spamming instead of dropping a bid and leaving to do literally anything else with your life than click on a placard.

The housing system is far from perfect, but f*ck FCFS and placard click spamming.

[BrokentoothMarch]

It doesnt matter since the restriction of a 30 day old FC was told less than 20 days ago. So all those bots will miss out on the first lottery cycle. Sure, some might have been an FC, but even then, its highly unlikely that for every 4 bots they had an FC.

And thats how the bots got excluded.

MOST have been an FC as, again, this was the optimal way to trade houses. Bots did not get excluded. And certainly you don't even believe yourself when you imply bots were just sitting around kicking rocks before the announcement. We were told of the lottery system, the new housing area, and a potential FC age requirement (although technically defined later) far before. Anyone with a few neurons would think it wise to prepare for these factors. With the large majority of plots being given to FCs, again, at the expense of player plots, this only increases their odds. To say nothing of how unlikely all those wards will be effectively filled by legitimate FCs in general, offering more legroom for bots.

I think it's silly to say that bots are excluded when the method they always used is suddenly unviable in an ecosystem where that method has not only been unregulated, but outright encouraged.

Why does Yoshi and his crew insist on playing this insipid game of cat and mouse with supply and demand of houses? Instanced housing. I won't stop crying for it. It's spawned into the golden standard for a reason and we're witnessing why it overtook this archaic, primitive nonsense that only exists because, from what I hear, is the dev's pining nostalgia.

[Athanisia]

MOST have been an FC as, again, this was the optimal way to trade houses. Bots did not get excluded. And certainly you don't even believe yourself when you imply bots were just sitting around kicking rocks before the announcement. We were told of the lottery system, the new housing area, and a potential FC age requirement (although technically defined later) far before. Anyone with a few neurons would think it wise to prepare for these factors. With the large majority of plots being given to FCs, again, at the expense of player plots, this only increases their odds. To say nothing of how unlikely all those wards will be effectively filled by legitimate FCs in general, offering more legroom for bots.

I think it's silly to say that bots are excluded when the method they always used is suddenly unviable in an ecosystem where that method has not only been unregulated, but outright encouraged.

Why does Yoshi and his crew insist on playing this insipid game of cat and mouse with supply and demand of houses? Instanced housing. I won't stop crying for it. It's spawned into the golden standard for a reason and we're witnessing why it overtook this archaic, primitive nonsense that only exists because, from what I hear, is the dev's pining nostalgia.

You are forgetting the fact that it takes 30 days after a person joins an FC to be given leadership. Which means said buyer will still have to wait to obtain what they paid a bot for. So unless the owner is able to leave the FC and the new member becomes owner (hoping that loophole isn't the case) they would still have to wait which no normal "smart" person would give a bot hundreds of thousands of gil to buy an FC with house of they have to wait 30 days just to get rid of the bot and take leader privileges. But, alas who knows... some people have more gil then brains.

[Jalei]

Oh yeah, thanks soooo much for the shiny new crafting/gathering gear that's ridiculously hard to make and requires massive amounts of materials. Since that exact gear is the ONLY gear in the game currently that REQUIRES that gear to make, it's POINTLESS. Do you guys actually look at what your doing before, during, and after you're doing it? That's a complete circular pattern there. I've been disappointed by you for the last time, SE. It was fun, but this current attitude isn't gonna cut it for me anymore.

Is this your first time crafting because its like this EVERY SINGLE xpac lol. They do this to give players time to prep for the crafted raid gear without having to rush. It follows the same trends with crafted gear year after year. Beside that, crafting has progressively gotten easier with each xpac since SB. What's next, a single button crafting system and the game hands you the mats? The things people are salty over could season my food for life.

Also, just to mention. Its not required for anything, not even the gear itself. The crafted AR-Caen i560 gear is more than enough until 6.2 approaches when it will actually be required and even then, yea you guessed it. The i560 gear is more than capable of crafting the new dol/doh gear.

[hydralus]

It does? I thought you could only do one per service account. Im 100% sure i seen someone already said that.

It let me put a ticket in the lottery for every alt so either it's not working as intended or there was some confusion.

[Krotoan]

It let me put a ticket in the lottery for every alt so either it's not working as intended or there was some confusion.

Was this for an FC house? does your FC already have a house?



Cause someone else tested and was denied.. or is lying.

Edit:
Just tried placing one more bid for another plot and got: "You may only submit one lottery entry per lottery period."
Even tried placing that extra bid from my second character and got: "No more land may be purchased on this world by characters attached to this service account" error. But thats for FC and we already have a house and simply try to relocate. May be it's only possible for those who don't own a house whatsoever?

[Broken_Wind]

I think there's 3 reasons why a lot of people aren't going after the ishgard plots, and its the same reason I'm not looking to move up to a large there from the medium I got by sheer luck early shb

1. The outdoor space is about a third to half of the size of similar plots in mist, at least for larges and mediums. I could fit 2 regalia end to end from door to gate and still have room left over in mist. In empyreum I couldn't do that.
2. Ishgard has quite frankly, views as depressing as the goblet which is the unpopular of the previous 4 districts. 2 of the 3 mansions and about half the smalls look straight at the walls on either side, the environment is mostly monotone grey and the mountains in the distance arent exactly nice to look at when most of the time its cloudy
3. The layout of ishgard's housing leaves something to be desired with a lot of stairs and odd market board placements

also friday is probably the day most tickets will enter since thats when everyone is free.

I like the Goblet's mountain views. The outer rim of Goblet has a few plots that have some really nice views.
Ishgard's mountain views should be similar, but they arent. The layout of the zone leaves it so no plots seem to have good mountain views

Ishgard is by far my least favorite housing zone. Its just depressing to me.

[hydralus]

Was this for an FC house? does your FC already have a house?



Cause someone else tested and was denied.. or is lying.

No it's for a personal.