Let's Talk About SAMURAI

[Bureda]

Samurai definitely has an overbloated kit, along with Dragoon but they aren't as unfair as you make it out to be.

SAM is also the poster child for this game, it's always top tier in ALL content, since its a very console friendly AFK job with lots of big numbers. Don't expect that to die down any time soon.

However. I do think instead of nerfing SAM they should buff all jobs on equal standard. Chaotic is good. Especially for PvP and the fun you can get out of it.

[Cesarion]

Midare Setsugakka doesnt give you a shield like Ogi Namikiri, the tooltips dont mention Midare also giving shield.

Besides that because of the server tick samurai LB doesnt work correctly half of the time anyway.

[Kiao-Ken]

Midare Setsugakka doesnt give you a shield like Ogi Namikiri, the tooltips dont mention Midare also giving shield.

Besides that because of the server tick samurai LB doesnt work correctly half of the time anyway.

Oh shit, I will own up to that mistake. I know I was looking at Kaeshi: Namikiri and ended up typing Midare Setsu. I'll make the correction now. Thanks.

[Ashgarth]

To be honest. the absolute clusterfuck of spell effects make reacting to anything the enemy Samurai does almost impossible.

[Cesarion]

Also, whike Meiko gtrans purifying effects, you cant really use it when deep frozen, silenced or stunned, which makes it useless

[Kiao-Ken]

Disagree. The fact that a class, melee dps, has a secondary Purify (Meikyo Shisui Effect: Nullifies status afflictions that can be removed by Purify) is, by all means, not useless at all.

[Rhyneth]

I think the main issue Samurai presents is that it's able to function as a hybrid tank yet again, without paying any tax for it like Monk does. Infact before the changes it was pretty tanky, now it's even stronger.
It has a stun, bind, self-cleanse and has extremely high potency skills which grant shields ontop of having oppressive damage, which allows it to be tankier than the tanks and even Monk under specific conditions.

It can effectively sponge, harass, duel and lockdown targets if you take advantage of Kaiten properly and it has the ability to one-hit KO people if they accidentally hit you during Chiten which is very difficult to read unless they're watching for the buffs/debuffs on the scoreboard or under your healthbar when targeted.

Samurai is definitely overloaded kit-wise but I think that mainly comes down to the fact it's dashes have 3 charges thus 3 Kaiten available back-to-back and they recharge incredibly quick, so you will always have one up to bind or heal off of, alongside it's self-cleanse and stun being on short cooldowns making it way too self-efficient compared to any of the other classes available in PvP and right now, the fact it has a stun as a DPS class with such high potency skills is very overtuned even if 'Purify' exists, the CD of the stun is shorter than Purify, so you can just go again before that comes off CD and burst without issue.

Monk has a short-cd stun but it definitely doesn't offload as much damage or self-utility as Samurai does in such a short amount of time and requires way more build-up to hit high potency as well, plus it's LB is a lot more straight forward and is less punishing, as in, you don't instantly die if you don't read for the buffs that are up.

All they need to do is just make it so the dash only has 1 charge and refreshes every 10 or 15 seconds and add a visible effect for when Chiten is being used so you can better read when you might be approaching danger, then Samurai be a lot less problematic than it is right now.

[Necrotica]

What I anticipate happening and strongly advise against for tos reasons is certain programs that would alert a player with noise or icons or other such effects when not to hit a samurai.

Don't use them.

They will probably end up existing though.

But don't use them. Not worth the ban risk.

[Velnora]

Samurai definitely has an overbloated kit, along with Dragoon but they aren't as unfair as you make it out to be.

SAM is also the poster child for this game, it's always top tier in ALL content, since its a very console friendly AFK job with lots of big numbers. Don't expect that to die down any time soon.

However. I do think instead of nerfing SAM they should buff all jobs on equal standard. Chaotic is good. Especially for PvP and the fun you can get out of it.

How on earth does Dragoon have an overbloated kit? lol

[KageTokage]

I feel like they need to make Chiten only work on damage being targeted directly at the SAM or something if they want to keep it as the instakill conditional for SAM's LB.

While you can theoretically can avoid it by just not hitting a SAM with a full LB gauge, some jobs like SGE have so much incidental AoE that it's way too easy to accidentally trigger Chiten and die anyways.