Let's Talk About SAMURAI

[Kiao-Ken]

You opted out of me saying anything else when I told you how to counter the setup and you responded with, and I quote, "I see you main Samurai, you really don't want Samurai to be balanced. Honestly, you're the same type of player that that gets this false sense of "I'm good because of me" when in reality, you're getting carried by the class." I've told you what stops it from happening, I've given advice to someone else that you can probably use, but that's too hard for you. Better to complain on the forums until the nerf bat starts carrying you. In conclusion: Skill issue. Stay free to the noob trap.

Yes, yes, you are correct. If you tell me 1+1=3, then you are correct. If you tell me "Just stop being poor", then I'll just stop being poor just like that. It's a skill issue, nothing like what Qeilos has stated.

[Naizakane]

Yes, yes, you are correct. If you tell me 1+1=3, then you are correct. If you tell me "Just stop being poor", then I'll just stop being poor just like that. It's a skill issue, nothing like what Qeilos has stated.

If advice to avoid the noob trap is making you this angry, this might not be suitable content for you. Guildhests are a thing, so there's something for you to do in this game.

[Kiao-Ken]

You opted out of me saying anything else when I told you how to counter the setup and you responded with, and I quote, "I see you main Samurai, you really don't want Samurai to be balanced. Honestly, you're the same type of player that that gets this false sense of "I'm good because of me" when in reality, you're getting carried by the class." I've told you what stops it from happening, I've given advice to someone else that you can probably use, but that's too hard for you. Better to complain on the forums until the nerf bat starts carrying you. In conclusion: Skill issue. Stay free to the noob trap.

Still lacking in intellectual input. Do refrain from being a stubborn little child and give some actual input other than "git gud noob" or the jest. I've asked to define, or at least, state the reason why SAM should keep its kit as I stated in the first post. If given such explanations as to why, then why shouldn't other classes, at least on the concept of melee DPS, shouldn't they too get such a kit. If such kit(s) already exist. Then why was Munk (spelling error intended) left in such a stupid state that it's currently at? At least be reasonable. " Skill issue. Stay free to the noob trap.

[Naizakane]

Still lacking in intellectual input. Do refrain from being a stubborn little child and give some actual input other than "git gud noob" or the jest. I've asked to define, or at least, state the reason why SAM should keep its kit as I stated in the first post. If given such explanations as to why, then why shouldn't other classes, at least on the concept of melee DPS, shouldn't they too get such a kit. If such kit(s) already exist. Then why was Munk (spelling error intended) left in such a stupid state that it's currently at? At least be reasonable. " Skill issue. Stay free to the noob trap.

SAM should keep its kit because it's fun. Monk's kit is fine because it's also fun; I have no idea where you got the impression that it's reliant on Enlightenment to do anything. Ninja has 2 stuns every 15 seconds, twice as many as Samurai, and the damage from it isn't percentage-based, making it better than Mineuchi when the target's health is lower. Ninja can set a target up for heavy burst damage every 20 seconds via Mug, a debuff which the Ninja's entire group can take advantage of, so why is Chiten a problem? Dragoon's limit break makes them invincible up to 5 seconds, and I've seen it hit for 40k, so why is Zantetsuken a problem?

Let's look at your other points as well, while I'm here. Mangetsu is an 8k potency aoe because the Samurai has to commit hard for it by using a gapcloser. Ogi/Kaeshi Namikiri give the Samurai an 8k potency shield because they have to stand still in your face and cast to use them. Soten is not the problem you think it is, but let's not talk about Monk being able to shield a teammate with Thunderclap because you think it's bad.

Do I have to keep doing this or are you going to stop hitting the Samurai who's running at you with a full bar and Chiten and calling the class OP when you get hit with the basic awareness check?

[Necrotica]

Think the plan is to generate revenue and provide in game time/currency sink. Have a few broken overpowered classes. People play those, level them, spend in and out of game money on currencies to glam up the broken class so they can look super ultra elite in the portrait. Then it gets nerfed to the ground. Another class becomes all powerful. Now they will spend in and out of game money to get that one looking good. And just keep that going on a loop. Similar to what WoW would do to keep people playing.

[Kiao-Ken]

SAM should keep its kit because it's fun. Monk's kit is fine because it's also fun; I have no idea where you got the impression that it's reliant on Enlightenment to do anything. Ninja has 2 stuns every 15 seconds, twice as many as Samurai, and the damage from it isn't percentage-based, making it better than Mineuchi when the target's health is lower. Ninja can set a target up for heavy burst damage every 20 seconds via Mug, a debuff which the Ninja's entire group can take advantage of, so why is Chiten a problem? Dragoon's limit break makes them invincible up to 5 seconds, and I've seen it hit for 40k, so why is Zantetsuken a problem?

Let's look at your other points as well, while I'm here. Mangetsu is an 8k potency aoe because the Samurai has to commit hard for it by using a gapcloser. Ogi/Kaeshi Namikiri give the Samurai an 8k potency shield because they have to stand still in your face and cast to use them. Soten is not the problem you think it is, but let's not talk about Monk being able to shield a teammate with Thunderclap because you think it's bad.

Do I have to keep doing this or are you going to stop hitting the Samurai who's running at you with a full bar and Chiten and calling the class OP when you get hit with the basic awareness check?

LMAO. I'd leave it with "LMAO" but this forum requires 10 characters or 10 words, one or the other, to post.

[Naizakane]

LMAO. I'd leave it with "LMAO" but this forum requires 10 characters or 10 words, one or the other, to post.

You type like you keep trickling in to feed 1v5 when people are calling to regroup

[Kiao-Ken]

You type like you keep trickling in to feed 1v5 when people are calling to regroup

Damn, you're still typing? Give it a rest.

[Divinemights]

SE has a really good internal beta testers (unlike Blizzard use public test server)
If SAM need an adjustment, it will reflects at next patch.
Your input will be respect, but it doesn't mean you are correct so you can just keep civil.
SE will not change stuff just because one or few players ranting
Everyone that claims SE don't care and don't know how to design PvP pretty much all got their face slapped right.
Players is not always right.
Everyone is going to have a job they don't know how to counter in PvP, maybe SAM is the one you don't know how to handle, it doesn't mean it is same for others.

[Necrotica]

Everyone that claims SE don't care and don't know how to design PvP pretty much all got their face slapped right.

We were proven right. This thing is a mess. It has huge potential to be fun, but the execution could not have been worse.