Thread: Bard's 6.1 changes - why bother?

The PP changes really doesn't help bloating issues when there are better options based on the current design, like:
1. Just merge Raging strikes and barrage
2. Making heavy shot/ burst arrow change into Refulgent Arrow when it procs
3. Remove Sidewinder
4. Deleting Dots and Iron jaws
5. Deleting all role actions that interrupt or cause negative status effect in PVE areas since the PVP patches heavily nerfed them in the overworld

Originally Posted by Duskane

I'm surprise they went with merging the button
and not just letting pitch perfect stacks persist for 10-15 secs after WM

This would have made way more sense because it's annoying when the action is sometimes canceled mid animation

Originally Posted by MPNZ

The PP changes really doesn't help bloating issues when there are better options based on the current design, like:
1. Just merge Raging strikes and barrage
2. Making heavy shot/ burst arrow change into Refulgent Arrow when it procs
3. Remove Sidewinder
4. Deleting Dots and Iron jaws
5. Deleting all role actions that interrupt or cause negative status effect in PVE areas since the PVP patches heavily nerfed them in the overworld



This would have made way more sense because it's annoying when the action is sometimes canceled mid animation

BRD being the last bastion of DoT DPS jobs would cause the DoT lovers to jump you with that suggestion. Not saying I disagree though, and the Repertoire changes certainly set that up.

There are definitely a few changes that could be made to clear up bloat issues. Removing Interrupt seems like a strange suggestion. It isn't used often but it is used (unlike bind/heavy). Also agree with being able to hold pitch perfect stacks. Maybe not for 10-15 seconds, but 5 seconds would be nice so you can get them out if you cut it too close.


Combining sidewinder/Empyreal Arrow with charges and/or just dumping those charges into Bloodletter. Get rid of Shadowbite and have Refulgent arrow cleave (and replace both burst shot and Ladon's Bite). Get rid of Rain of Death and make Bloodletter cleave.


in b4 they decide to stack the songs together instead.

Wanderer's Minuet turns into Mage's Ballad after use;
Mage's Ballad turns into Army's Paeon after use;
Army's Paeon turns back into Wanderer's Minuet;

-evil laugh-

Originally Posted by LeonKeyh

BRD being the last bastion of DoT DPS jobs would cause the DoT lovers to jump you with that suggestion. Not saying I disagree though, and the Repertoire changes certainly set that up.

There are definitely a few changes that could be made to clear up bloat issues. Removing Interrupt seems like a strange suggestion. It isn't used often but it is used (unlike bind/heavy). Also agree with being able to hold pitch perfect stacks. Maybe not for 10-15 seconds, but 5 seconds would be nice so you can get them out if you cut it too close.


Combining sidewinder/Empyreal Arrow with charges and/or just dumping those charges into Bloodletter. Get rid of Shadowbite and have Refulgent arrow cleave (and replace both burst shot and Ladon's Bite). Get rid of Rain of Death and make Bloodletter cleave.


in b4 they decide to stack the songs together instead.

Wanderer's Minuet turns into Mage's Ballad after use;
Mage's Ballad turns into Army's Paeon after use;
Army's Paeon turns back into Wanderer's Minuet;

-evil laugh-

Evil....

Yeah, I'm definitely not in the "remove DoTs" camp either, but the current design just screams "REMOVAL IMMINENT". It just really doesn't look good, prospect wise for them


I rarely notice when they're needed, and when they are they can usually be avoided entirely. Unlike, 2.0 bind which kept enemies at a distance, interrupted, and wasn't canceled out by damage. BRD was basically an anti-mage in early PVP

Originally Posted by ExcMiddle

Personally I like Ladon's bite because of the space it allows you to cleave targets with but having shadowbite and Refulgent arrow be the same button does sound like a clean solution.

Also why get rid of Rain of death and not get rid of bloodletter instead? Besides the level differences, it is what you are asking.

I didn't mean "get rid of Ladon's bite" I meant, "get rid of Shadowbite" when, whenever Straight Shot procs, replace the Ladon's Bite button with the new Refulgent arrow which does big damage + drop off to other targets.

As for the Rain of Death/Blood Letter, same difference. Make one do a lot of damage to primary target plus have damage fall off in X AE configuration and get rid of the other.

Originally Posted by Kosachi

...Then what's left? The job is already a burst shot simulator as it is.

Basically, there were other options that would actually create space for newer actions, and that was my list for a best to worst in descending order as opposed to just solving nothing and multiplying Wanderer's Minuet actions for their effort