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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 90

    Lack of Balace in the Crystaline Conflict

    Noticing that every game I've been teamed up against a tank, healer (generally a white mage and warrior), and 3 dps. Meanwhile, I'm consistently never put into such a team. Now I know as a dps queing I'm obviously reducing my odds since I'm neither a healer or tank, but how is it possible that EVERY SINGLE GAME the enemy is a tank, a healer, and 3 dps but I'm very very rarely getting into such teams? Am I just really unlucky?

    I get wanting to not have ques take an eternity but I'm constantly being put into teams that are virtually guaranteed to fail. Speaking of which, the whole ranking system is gonna incentivize match dropping to not lose rank. It's an interesting idea, but why bother staying a game you know you're going to lose when it'll cost you progress within a rank? Better to eat a 30 min deserter and try again and hope to win the next round. Rinse and repeat each time you're losing.
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    Last edited by YukikoKurosawa; 04-15-2022 at 04:33 AM.

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    Bjorn-Kobito's Avatar
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    Bjorn Kobito
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It's more so some of the jobs are really strong over you needing a tank or a healer. WAR is stupid with AoE stun and WHM also has an AoE stun LB. PvP is just a game of timing your CCs right now.
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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjorn-Kobito View Post
    It's more so some of the jobs are really strong over you needing a tank or a healer. WAR is stupid with AoE stun and WHM also has an AoE stun LB. PvP is just a game of timing your CCs right now.
    Not really my point. My point is EVERY SINGLE GAME the enemy team has the exact same setup, tank healer and 3 dps. That shouldn't be possible. It's too consistent to just be bad luck.
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Not really my point. My point is EVERY SINGLE GAME the enemy team has the exact same setup, tank healer and 3 dps. That shouldn't be possible. It's too consistent to just be bad luck.
    It's not possible.
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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItaruKarin View Post
    It's not possible.
    I've done about 50 games today and every single one has an enemy team with a tank, healer and 3 dps. Every, single, game. I've only had 2 games where I've had teh same set up. Obviously something is wrong as this shouldn't be possible even as someone queing as dps consistently.
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    Charlotte_Wells's Avatar
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    Charlotte Wells
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The balancing is really weird. Since wednesday i mostly end up in passive teams that get steamrolled.
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    I picked up my redmage again since i can be sort of a healer when we have none and just switch to black most of the time if i got a healer on my team. I saved so many people with the white shift LB and verholy but then i receive complaints about my low damage while they completely ignore that im first or second in healing.

    So yeah if you wanna be versatile i really recommend RDM
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    yeah Balance is wack but modes pretty new and experimental so this was bound to happen
    it'll get fixed over time
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Honestly i think that a match where i have 2 healers (and maybe against 4 dps and a tank) is a sure loss. Healers hit like wet noodles. instead 4 or 5 dps can focus more and steamroll everything
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Non-SGE healers hitting like noodles is kind of intended because the bulk of their contribution comes from assisting with kills either via CC or damage buffs.

    It doesn't really detract from the fact that CC and/or burst heavy team comps tend to inherently do better, though.
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