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    fleyr's Avatar
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    Hreyr Altugle
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    The new Augmented gear pieces have vastly different substat allocation, unlike before

    Just went to upgrade my crafted stuff as is normal with an odd patch.
    Noticed my GCD went all the way down from 2.4 to to 2.36.
    Turns out, the tank boots and chestpiece have different stats than before, and are actually just worse overall, even with the mainstat increase.



    Why do this when it's been just the same but better every patch beforehand? It's not even all gear pieces too, is this a mistake?
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    Last edited by fleyr; 04-13-2022 at 05:26 AM.

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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Yeah i just checked my healer top and boots and the crit/det is now crit/piety and crit/spell speed. That is wrong why would they do that?
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    It makes the 24 man gear worth getting.
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    Mia Shino
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Square loooooooves putting useless dump stats on gear for reasons most mysterious. Attempting to avoid piety is exercise in futility especially when they shove it onto your weapon.

    Oh thank the twelve I am MP stable for twelve minutes in fight that lasts nine minutes. Remember folks, Ironworks has five stats so you get the good ones even if the gear also has the useless ones.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Of course I upgraded those exact two pieces blindly because they've always been the same stats before, now I need replacements of some kind for my tanks.

    It looks like specifically the left side stuff is different while the accessories all have the same sub stats as the base versions.
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    Hreyr Altugle
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    It makes the 24 man gear worth getting.
    That's not a bad thing itself, but both the 24-man and augmented gearsets are just catch up mechanics. How can you expect someone to "catch up" at a reasonable pace if you only get one piece of gear a week? That's placing it on the same pedestal as a Savage fight in terms of how you get it, except it's weaker. Not only that, why change the stats at all? Just make the new AR gear have even better stats? They went and cornered themselves making the chestpiece Crit/Det, but at least they could've compensated on other slots.

    Besides, AR gear should just be worth getting by itself? That was the case for the whole of ShB. Just give them different stats period, instead of changing something for no reason at all.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    It looks like specifically the left side stuff is different while the accessories all have the same sub stats as the base versions.
    ...now that I look at it further, it seems that all of the alliance raid pieces have the same sub stats as the base crafted items. This is very dumb.
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    Yuki Bajhiri
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Cool, so 590 catch-up gear with good stats, which is already inferior to the raid gear and 1st class tomestone gear that has been out for 4 months, is locked behind both a 1 drop per week timegate, AND RNG drop chance with competitive rolls.

    Instead of locked behind farmable 2nd class tomestones and crafted gear trade-ins, as intended.

    My RPR/DRG, which was supposed to be my SAM replacement, lost a great pair of crit legs because of this. My tanks won't even upgrade the chest and legs because the substats on them are so awful.

    So much of this patch feels rushed and half-baked.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Augmented crafted gear has had different stats than before augmenting in the past, but it's rare. I remember it a very long time ago on one or two pieces, so I always check.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    ...now that I look at it further, it seems that all of the alliance raid pieces have the same sub stats as the base crafted items. This is very dumb.
    Aaaand it turns out it was a mistake and they're swapping them around tonight. Really glad I didn't use my weekly alliance raid drop on the tank chest piece which will now have the bad stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Known Issues After Patch 6.1 (Apr. 13)
    The issues below have been confirmed.
    We are currently investigating the issues and working to address them.

    [Known Issues]
    ■ The secondary attributes of the augmented classical series of gear (item level 590), obtainable by exchanging crafted item level 580 gear, are incorrect.

    ■ The secondary attributes of the panthean gear, obtainable from the Aglaia alliance raid, are incorrect.

    We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
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