Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
I’m just commenting on your thoughts of Zodiark being an actual character on the same level as Hydaelyn.

Zodiark is only treated as a fully-formed character by the Ascians early on in the game when he was still just a formless “dark god” that was just used as a vague reason why the Ascians were doing bad things that weren’t explained yet. When the veil was lifted (and his story was actually fleshed out), he was used as a plot device for the Ascians to revive and we learned that his heart is actually another Ascian we were already familiar with since ARR. This was taken even further when he’s body-jacked by another Ascian, who doesn’t suddenly become “Zodiark the character”, just “Fancy Dan in a big spooky body”.

Considering Elidibus separated from Zodiark shortly after summoning, a fully-formed Zodiark with agency probably had a shorter shelf-life than Moenbryda and more importantly, was someone we’ve never met. Hydaelyn meanwhile has been around 12000 years and has meaningful interactions with our character.

Personally I’m done with both of them and just want to move onto other things.
Right but the entry describes both Venat and Hydaelyn. Venat is someone we’ve only known for a very short time as well. Either way though, both entities like them or hate them are both major major players in the story. The world wouldn’t exist were it not for Zodiark. Just that alone is a pivotal piece of lore. Not to mention the whole bit about him rewriting the laws of creation and all that potentially being undone? That’s extremely important. Elidibus himself has been a major player since ARR as well, so whether you split them or not, one of them should be in the codex. Hell, if we combine venat and hydaelyn and elidibus and zodiark, the latter has had more screentime and development, so that argument kind of goes out the window.Also….Zodiark has been around 12k+ years too. HE WAS LITERALLY CREATED BEFORE HER LOL