Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
Hydaelyn is a magical mecha suit as well tho, with no agency of her own. Its only because Venat is still in her as the core that she has agency. Zodiark has been present since 2.0...so im not sure where that argument lies?
Hydaelyn and Venat are interchangeable just as Elidibus and Zodiark should have been but we never witnessed in the game a full Zodiark or even a Zodiark with Elidibus at the helm so we just know his ejected, active self, Elidibus. Just like we only knew Venat as “Hydaelyn” until the very end of the game when we met Venat pre-summoning because that’s who we actually interacted with up until that point.

I haven’t started the new MSQ yet so I haven’t seen what the criteria for being included in the codex are but I think you’re making much ado about nothing.