SAM changes ruins new patch

[Grimoire-M]

You realise that most SAM mains probably don't main healers, right? Laying on the blame on SAMs for not defending you because you didn't fight hard enough is just straight cope. If you want healers to get fixed, rally all the healers to come up with *specific* reasons that their classes and the role feels bad. Come up with mathematical analysis, come up with empassioned speeches, do something that isn't simply "healing is braindead now, fix it please!" because that's not passing on any information other than the fact you're displeased.

If nothing else, you're just coming off as spiteful and a hypocrite because now when complaints are being made, you're sitting there gloating instead of embodying the change that you're trying to advocate for and getting in the trenches with the SAMs. They might even respect you more for it. Instead, you're just going to be distruptive and combative which isn't helping your case - or anyone else's for that matter. Personally I've only played AST to level it because I've never liked the class, but you expect me - and everyone else - to defend a class we don't know, don't play and can't give a detailed analysis of because you asked? That's not really how this works.

Dude if you’ve been here long enough you’ve at least looked at the other role forums to see what the hell they’re up to. That’s just being mindful of your options. What he’s saying is absolutely true.

[SlickPaws]

Dude if you’ve been here long enough you’ve at least looked at the other role forums to see what the hell they’re up to. That’s just being mindful of your options. What he’s saying is absolutely true.

I never disputed that what he said about the class wasn't true, what I have issue with is his attitude. Healers are having a rough time, and I feel for them but I only ever dabble with healing being a tank main so I'm not really sure what they expect me to do about it. I didn't play AST all that much in 4.X or 5.X and I'm not going to play it very much for this current content; I've never liked the class very much and odds are I never will... So how exactly am I going to have anything else to add to the argument from ASTs about Square dumbing down their class? The best thing I can do is not give healers shit for trying to stand up for their role and hope that they're not going to come in and be salty and distruptive when I try to defend classes that I like. If the sentiment from the playerbase is "Everyone deserved dumbed down jobs because they never defended the healers" then we might as well never bring up any piece of feedback or criticism to Square again because we deserve all we get, if we follow the thought to the logical conclusion. /shrug

Y'all get what you deserve for not playing the correct class.

Black Mage, as Papa Yoshi intended .

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