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    I also experienced this issue.
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    We've submitted a fix for this, so it should be in soon. Thanks, everyone!
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    I just thought that the "his" in that statement was in reference to Alphinaud, because the previous sentence alluding to him.
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  4. #14
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    Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet? I put off doing the quest until it is.
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  5. #15
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    Sahja Irylia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazemon15 View Post
    Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet? I put off doing the quest until it is.
    I just checked the Unending Journey and it appeared to be fixed.


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    However, I'm still upset about this issue happening in the first place. This sort of thing is way too common in game development, where "male" seems to be regarded as the default, look no further than the Derplander in trailers to see that this is the case. Which means female players and player characters are often regarded as less important. FF14 is definitely not the worst offender of this, but I really wanted to believe that the devs were better than that.
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    RIP Summoner, 30-72
    I now fight as a Dark Knight to avenge my Carbuncles.

  6. #16
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    It's common overall, not just in game development. It's easy for the person writing it to use their own pronoun and to forget that some magick normally replaces the pronouns so it changes depending on which one your character uses.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 05-29-2022 at 10:14 PM.
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianOfApples View Post
    However, I'm still upset about this issue happening in the first place. This sort of thing is way too common in game development, where "male" seems to be regarded as the default, look no further than the Derplander in trailers to see that this is the case. Which means female players and player characters are often regarded as less important. FF14 is definitely not the worst offender of this, but I really wanted to believe that the devs were better than that.
    I thought it was reversed and both genders were getting the wrong pronoun, as in post #6? Or was it different for quest vs emote issues?

    In any case I don't see it as something to get upset over. Even if there's no bias, putting in a single gender pronoun as a placeholder for going back and adding a variable later is going to be 50/50 which gender they pick. Insisting it should always be female to begin with isn't any better than always male.

    There are battles to pick for equal representation, but I don't think this is one of them.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I thought it was reversed and both genders were getting the wrong pronoun, as in post #6? Or was it different for quest vs emote issues?

    In any case I don't see it as something to get upset over. Even if there's no bias, putting in a single gender pronoun as a placeholder for going back and adding a variable later is going to be 50/50 which gender they pick. Insisting it should always be female to begin with isn't any better than always male.

    There are battles to pick for equal representation, but I don't think this is one of them.
    Dunno if it was, if so it would seem they didn't do much quality testing with the quest.

    Always one or the other is the issue. The default is always the same one, making it feel like the other is an afterthought. Which can kind of hurt sometimes.
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    RIP Summoner, 30-72
    I now fight as a Dark Knight to avenge my Carbuncles.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianOfApples View Post
    Always one or the other is the issue. The default is always the same one, making it feel like the other is an afterthought. Which can kind of hurt sometimes.
    I just can't bring myself to be offended by it.

    If people are actually writing to me specifically, then yeah, I'd prefer they default to "they" rather than "he" – but if they do, just correct it and move on.

    Being offended that someone wrote "he" as a placeholder for nobody in particular, with no malice behind it, seems like too much effort. It was an error and they fixed it.
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    This was likely an honest mistake, and humans aren't infallible. It's not reasonable to assume there's some other agenda at play.

    It was just a mistake, and it was fixed. There was no ill intention.
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