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  1. #31
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    DistantPower's Avatar
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    Alexander Mizuharu
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    It definitely doesn't make sense that you cannot queue with friends in Casual. Casual doesn't need separate solo/premade queues though. However, It would be cool to see a Premade queue for Ranked.
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  2. #32
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    PangTong's Avatar
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    Reginald Thorne
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 100
    I would support a full party queue option that only matches you with other full parties, but ONLY for casual matches. Ranked needs to stay solo only.
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  3. #33
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    Elesh's Avatar
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    Eleshakai Eraia
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The pvp looks super fun. But if they're not willing to let me bring a friend, I'm not interested. (and just to be clear - I am talking specifically about casual. I get concerns over fairness in ranked. But for casual, make it easy and fun for people to jump in and play with their friends)
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  4. #34
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    Volke Volke
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YossarianLives View Post
    You sound like bitter person who will find a way to complain about fairness no matter what happens. Besides, people have already said just have two different queues and there we go sorted. Stop getting mad and being passive aggressive against imagined toxicity. Your kind of behaviour is more toxic than the actual toxic people who you think lurking behind every corner. We don't want an unfair advantage, we want to play with our friends (you have those right?) in an MMO. An MMO. Play with others. Novel concept I know.
    "I don't care about fairness, my needs must be satisfied"

    I feel like you're being overdramatic. If you wanna play with friends, play a different mode. This mode prioritizes fairness and fun over "playing with friends".
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  5. #35
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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YossarianLives View Post
    You sound like bitter person who will find a way to complain about fairness no matter what happens. Besides, people have already said just have two different queues and there we go sorted. Stop getting mad and being passive aggressive against imagined toxicity. Your kind of behaviour is more toxic than the actual toxic people who you think lurking behind every corner. We don't want an unfair advantage, we want to play with our friends (you have those right?) in an MMO. An MMO. Play with others. Novel concept I know.
    Create a PF for 5V5 casual matches and you can play with 4 of your friends allday and thrash each other. I’m sure team comps are coming at some point. Just be patient. I do agree that casual que should let you go in with at least one friend to practice and learn together. Ranked should always stay solo though, unless it’s team ranked.
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  6. #36
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    Ixon's Avatar
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    Nola Ustrina
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Casual, sure. Make it at least duo. Ranked? Nah. If the mode stays popular enough, there could be room for team ranked, but it hasn't worked well in the past so there needs to be proof to the devs that it wouldn't flop. If you want to PVP with friends that bad, there is always Frontlines(which was actually a lot of fun when I tried it), and you can always do a PF as someone listed for a custom match.
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  7. #37
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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    Nope, 5v5 needs fair matches. Getting steamrolled by 5 stacks isn't fun. Even Duo's grant a massive advantage. Hopefully they add a full premade vs. premade queue option, but stacks going against solo queues isn't fair. If you want to pvp with your friends, you can play frontlines. This particular mode is solo queue for now, in order to keep things fair
    Pre-made's are kind of a muddy-waters area in the world of PvP in mmorpg's; people either support it due to just being able to enjoy content with friends or family, or it's highly exploitive and unbalanced.

    I feel like what we have currently is about as fair as it could be right now, though i do feel like we could use a tiny bit of Rank balancing.
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  8. #38
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    Eleshakai Eraia
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RamValentine View Post
    want to play with friend
    Exactly.

    For me, it's specifically my wife. We play this game almost entirely together. And were hoping to take that into the shiny new pvp mode and have some casual pvp fun... but we can't.
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  9. #39
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    Ailin Dorne
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    "I don't care about fairness, my needs must be satisfied"

    I feel like you're being overdramatic. If you wanna play with friends, play a different mode. This mode prioritizes fairness and fun over "playing with friends".
    Imagine the absolute audacity of thinking the current system has any remote semblance of balance or fairness with the random party compositions.
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  10. #40
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    Eleshakai Eraia
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    "I don't care about fairness, my needs must be satisfied"

    I feel like you're being overdramatic. If you wanna play with friends, play a different mode. This mode prioritizes fairness and fun over "playing with friends".
    Ranked should be about fairness. You are correct.

    Casual should be about fun. Fun, in an MMO setting, for MOST people, tends to involve their friends. Just because you don't like your friends doesn't mean nobody should be allowed to have fun.
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