PVP Crystalline Conflict do NOT need to be solo queue or full party queue

[hexxxx]

It feels awful to try to sync casuals with friends, have one person get passed up on the pop, and have to decide between leaving them behind to wait for anywhere from 2-30min ...or having everyone eat a DF strike to attempt a re-sync. It's casual! It's just for fun! I believe the positives of letting friends play together outweigh the negatives; there are plenty of people out there who won't play PvP alone and wouldn't queue up otherwise. A little imbalance is OK, so long as there's a place players can go to play (presumably lol) balanced games. Even better, if dissatisfaction with premade teams pushes more people to queue ranked.

I can understand excluding premades from ranked. Matchmaking is already straining against the low player population and it would break completely if top players could stack together. We don't have the population to sustain team ranked queue, though it'd be nice if we did someday. It's better for everyone if we can get more people playing PvP in one form or another.

I also think it could also be beneficial to allow undersized/imbalanced private CC matches. If 4 friends want to play 2v2 CC together, they should be able to! Moreover, it would open CC maps to exploration and gpose. It's a little silly that there's no way to familiarize yourself with map mechanics outside of a live game.

[Latorn]

It feels awful to try to sync casuals with friends, have one person get passed up on the pop, and have to decide between leaving them behind to wait for anywhere from 2-30min ...or having everyone eat a DF strike to attempt a re-sync. It's casual! It's just for fun! I believe the positives of letting friends play together outweigh the negatives; there are plenty of people out there who won't play PvP alone and wouldn't queue up otherwise. A little imbalance is OK, so long as there's a place players can go to play (presumably lol) balanced games. Even better, if dissatisfaction with premade teams pushes more people to queue ranked.

I can understand excluding premades from ranked. Matchmaking is already straining against the low player population and it would break completely if top players could stack together. We don't have the population to sustain team ranked queue, though it'd be nice if we did someday. It's better for everyone if we can get more people playing PvP in one form or another.

I also think it could also be beneficial to allow undersized/imbalanced private CC matches. If 4 friends want to play 2v2 CC together, they should be able to! Moreover, it would open CC maps to exploration and gpose. It's a little silly that there's no way to familiarize yourself with map mechanics outside of a live game.

Exactly, ranked can stay solo queue, but unranked should at least allow people to play with their friends in a group. Pretty crazy that there is a team based tournament for this game mode, when there is no team queue at all! The pipeline for growing PvPers to learn team tactics is non-existent.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Exactly, ranked can stay solo queue, but unranked should at least allow people to play with their friends in a group. Pretty crazy that there is a team based tournament for this game mode, when there is no team queue at all! The pipeline for growing PvPers to learn team tactics is non-existent.

While I agree that queueing as a duo or at most trio (latter is risky for impact) should become a thing, I have to note that the team-based tournament has been trained for utilizing third-party platforms such as Discord to organize scrims and custom tournaments for a long time now. They make use of the Custom Match function which requires preforming two teams. Rewards are none, its essentially just a tool for private matches.

[Valence]

Again, just make the matchmaker adjust premade to premade ratio, and you fix the problem. I'm not saying to bring premades and teams into ranked though, but in casual? Sure, if one side has a 3 man premade, then the other will get a 3 man premade. Or 3 vs 2+2, idk.

[Eastwall]

I mean you can play with your friends by syncing queue with the eorzean time in game, but the problem is that youcan end up on the other team. And Yes, There is only two of us, but evem that can be a big advantage. We often get triple kills just lining up gunbreaker andwhite mage's lb

[Elfidan]

I don't think they can, or the fall off in player engagement doesn't matter enough to bother with it. You see the same problem in MMO pvp over and over again Valence. It's always randoms and new players who are just trying play vs seal team six. It's so reductive that people hide behind "I want to play with my friends" instead of just admitting 'I came to pub stomp'. Imagine the outrage if people received a handicap debuff based on number of players in a preformed party. All of you using voice coms and queue syncing against randoms are sick in the head and spit in the very face of fair competition. You should be ashamed.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I don't think they can, or the fall off in player engagement doesn't matter enough to bother with it. You see the same problem in MMO pvp over and over again Valence. It's always randoms and new players who are just trying play vs seal team six. It's so reductive that people hide behind "I want to play with my friends" instead of just admitting 'I came to pub stomp'. Imagine the outrage if people received a handicap debuff based on number of players in a preformed party. All of you using voice coms and queue syncing against randoms are sick in the head and spit in the very face of fair competition. You should be ashamed.

That's a lot of projection mate. Not everyone who'd enjoy playing with at least ONE friend is here to pubstomp.

I'd prefer if they simpy did a mixed solo+duo queue and let results speak rather than reading the ad verbatim regurgitated argument that duos will result in pub stomping when becoming a feature.

[Elfidan]

That's a lot of projection mate. Not everyone who'd enjoy playing with at least ONE friend is here to pubstomp.

I'd prefer if they simpy did a mixed solo+duo queue and let results speak rather than reading the ad verbatim regurgitated argument that duos will result in pub stomping when becoming a feature.

Historical evidence supports that claim. It's a terrible idea.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Historical evidence supports that claim. It's a terrible idea.

I will rather risk history repeating itself for half a patch so we can see results in this game with this format than to be a stubborn and stagnant doomsayer hoping zero changes are happening.

We can't have good changes if we don't try out things and occasionally have bad ones so no offence but screw your historical evidence and everything it stands for.

You can always have your "told you so" moment when it actually is done and implemented in an honest fashion. I cant have mine if I never get the chance.

[Mistress_Irika]

You know, it's a real shame that there is no compromising with some. With the way this thread is going and the frontlines one I can honestly see pvp being ran by soloists and experience point farmers in the near future.

I do feel sorry for those that wants to premade with at least one other person. If you don't have a group of 10 you're SOL. I do have to ask though since I'm posting. I don't necessarily need an answer to this question. If the focus is to have fun and not put an emphasis on winning why is there a huge fuss on premades? Just asking.

Anyways, enjoy dealing with the queue syncers in the non peak hours. The mode is just too small to get rid of them all.