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    Briml's Avatar
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    Brinna Vahn
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 84
    I do miss Kaiten, as I did every time I got old content in the roulette. I just came back to the game, so I don't have top-end SAM raiding experience anymore, but the change feels obvious even to me. It's not just the one button being gone, but the overall feeling of the class is worse for the changes. We don't have the behind-the-scenes information, but it seems like such a half-hearted attempt and a solution looking for a problem.

    There have been many smart ideas from the community how the stated reasons could have been addressed better, so I won't try to fumble my way through any of mine, but I'm kind of stuck with SAM unless I want to get another combat class leveled. So I will continue to play with the changes, leaving that space open on my hotbar forever; still pressing it out of habit and remember halcyon days when I do.
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    Character
    Yumiko Masamune
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Long time player, first time forum poster here! I've been playing FFXIV since Stormblood and have mained Samurai almost exclusively from the moment I hit lv.50.

    The removal of Kaiten is absolutely unacceptable. If they wanted to cut back on bloat, there were so many ways they could have done that without cutting Kaiten. They could have made the Ikishoten skill transform to Ogi Namikiri, they could have merged Shoha and Shoha II with some damage drop off for single target. They could have outright removed Hissatsu: Guren as the skill is very situational and seldom used over Hissatsu: Senei.

    The class feels so... what's the word...

    Boring. They took my favorite class, hands down, and made it a bore. The rotation finishers now hit for only slightly more than the rest of the abilities in the rotation, so the payoff feels so... pathetic.

    This change genuinely made me both sad and angry at the same time and, after having 24 hours to sit on it, I'm still feeling a fair bit of both. So much so I broke my silence on the forums to write this.

    Please revert this change ASAP, this was an enormous blunder on the Dev side and I pray they actually listen to the massive outcry for this to be reverted as immediately as possible. I don't even wanna play the game again until it's fixed.
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