Thread: 6.1 Samurai thoughts after getting to try them out in-game (please revert asap)

Was advised to post feed back so I posted it here -> " https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...95#post5893695, rather impulsively...

I don't go to the forums ever and as I read the forums I am somewhat relieved to see I am not the only one frustrated and upset with the recent butchering of our beloved SAM as I am reading other posts like this one, I'll share a few words here as well.


Kaiten was core to our rotation, satisfying to cast. Paired with Key hard hitting skills, Kaiten felt it had variance to it making it feel rewarding.

Several times now I hear " It's just one Button ", clearly some are trolls while others have no idea... let me say it crystal clear... " NOT A SINGLE CLUE " what the significance was of removing this button... with it gone? it butchered our playstyle.

The incompetence it took of whoever decided to make this change to rob the enjoyment of playing SAM from so many of us, is borderline insanity and impressive. I didn't think you could mess up something that was working so well so easily, but here we are.

Big numbers are nice, but I personally (speaking for myself) was more focused on enjoying the feel of the rotation. And THAT is STOLEN.

You can glance over my profile or lodestone or FFlogs, I do not play anything else, only SAM. I raid but I am not an impressive player... I try my best and that's it, I don't take the numbers that serious, but I love executing my class rotation as best as I can it is satisfying and rewarding.

And if its not to much to ask? I want that back...
I want our Samurai to feel satisfying to play again.

Bring back our Kaiten

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

You can glance over my profile or lodestone or FFlogs, I do not play anything else, only SAM. I raid but I am not an impressive player... I try my best and that's it, I don't take the numbers that serious, but I love executing my class rotation as best as I can it is satisfying and rewarding.

You have purples and blues mainly, by no means is that not an impressive feat. It means you are good at what you need to do to clear raids; oranges and pinks are reserved for the elite hardcore speed runners and world / server first groups, which is not for most people.

Back to the main topic since this thread seems to be gaining traction. I echo with what my fellow Samurai have posited in terms of feedback. The class simply does not feel right anymore, whether it's in terms of 'unga bunga' big numbers on screen, synergy with other classes, or the flow of the rotation (as I too experienced aspects such as awkward pauses between Shinten spams). It is no longer fun to play even though overall DPS output is similar to how it was before this change. Please revert these changes or at least redistribute potencies to our cool finishers in lieu of a full revert. For example, a simple fix if we cannot get a full revert is just adding the potency Kaiten would've added to them.

Playing samurai even feels much slower now. There's these silent awkward pauses clearly where there used to not be... I can't enjoy Samurai without Kaiten, sadly I'm gonna need to change to RPR or DRG until it's brought back.

Originally Posted by Aulainn

Playing samurai even feels much slower now. There's these silent awkward pauses clearly where there used to not be... I can't enjoy Samurai without Kaiten, sadly I'm gonna need to change to RPR or DRG until it's brought back.

It feels significantly slower. Even when weaving shinten in places where you'd press kaiten there is still this awkward pause. It doesn't help that shinten is an awful animation with a weird animation lock.

I miss Kaiten so much.

It was so satisfying to cast, such a cool animation and some tactical thoughts when to cast... somehow it now feels like gaps in the rotation - what to do with Kenki now? Shinten Spam?

So sad

Chiming in here to confirm the removal of Kaiten makes the class feel awful. I've only gotten to 65 so far but I've spent a fair bit of my time weaving in Kaiten to specific attacks. The lack of this ability is making my skin crawl, it feels so bad. It's just boring to play right now that I don't know if I want to explore the patch...and that sucks.

The job feels empty know, more shinten spam, no more big number satisfaction, clunky transition to iaijutsu, bad synergy with crit comps, just awful.

Nice work ruining the job with these changes no one asked for. Feels absolutely awful. Good stuff - Looking forward to playing it in ultimate in 3 weeks - NOT