Thread: AST Adjustments 6.2

Originally Posted by Recon1o6

Can't say I've had a problem with drifting unless I derped and used a proc instead of my standard step when it came off the cd

You will drift or clip with SkS because your GCD's don't divide evenly into the 30 sec cooldown of Standard Step (at 0 SkS, they divide perfectly into 12 GCD's). This isn't actually as much of an issue due to the 6.08 DNC buffs but it can still feel bad and misalign your rotation.

While you might like an attack speed buff for a "feel good" in casual content, an experienced DNC would hate it. SkS and SpS is usually the sort of stat that jobs either avoid like the plague or stack to very specific amounts for a specific rotation. While it would be nice to be able to just hit things faster and not worry, mathematically it can turn out to be a loss due to how the game is designed.

No class should be able to apply an unplanned buff that can disrupt other players rotation. It's just not a good idea.

I remember when SE cared more about fun. Nowadays it's x% DPS increase. PvP was a pleasant surprise but I'm not holding my breath.

Those who say they dont want old arrow back, am sure a person is gonna be smart to not use it on certain classes, its obvious that arrow is honestly would be more useful on healers or blm cause of healers 1 spell or blm for them to save their ley line on more potent matters, I agree that make the card not all that but meh am all for faster res casting or 1 1 pressing, maybe I can finally out dps the blm!!!! (joking)

I bet my Gil on that theyre going to remove Lord- and Lady of Crowns entirely again and then do some Potency adjustments and call it a day, all for the sake of Button bloating.


And it isnt like basic Rotation Skills on Jobs like SAM take up 8 slots or on the matter of Healers, u got arround 14 different Healing skills that only differ in looks, cooldown and somewhat in cast time. This could easily be fixed by turning those into combo actions like in PvP, if they want to reduce any "button bloat".

I want draw/play and arcana buttons to be one button each not two. I want sleeve draw back to mitigate crappy luck, I hate the cards so much I have barely touched my astro due to this. With these changes I, particularly the sleeve draw, I will return to healing on ast instead of scholar. I must say I was not happy for our essential dignity to be nerfed only to have the potency put on an extra charge of opposition and a new button.

What I find utterly baffliing is that in shadowbringers they changed sleeve draw from 3 fast card plays to 1 because it was TOO BUSY for many players to keep up with... and then they go and add a haste buff. So people who struggled to weave already struggle more. I liked the old sleeve draw, it was fun. A haste buff jus feels weird given all their previous efforts to slow the job down and make it simple.

Would like to see the time dilation effects to come back in some form but no way that happens this expansion.

Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

You will drift or clip with SkS because your GCD's don't divide evenly into the 30 sec cooldown of Standard Step (at 0 SkS, they divide perfectly into 12 GCD's). This isn't actually as much of an issue due to the 6.08 DNC buffs but it can still feel bad and misalign your rotation.

While you might like an attack speed buff for a "feel good" in casual content, an experienced DNC would hate it. SkS and SpS is usually the sort of stat that jobs either avoid like the plague or stack to very specific amounts for a specific rotation. While it would be nice to be able to just hit things faster and not worry, mathematically it can turn out to be a loss due to how the game is designed.

No class should be able to apply an unplanned buff that can disrupt other players rotation. It's just not a good idea.

No offense, but that's exactly the reason why jobs are boring, I'm sorry. The second something seems remotely fun another one brings up a calculator. I don't play a fantasy game to have boring abilities because a spreadsheet says so.

On one end we have casuals so most of the game with eye contact to the MSQ needs to stay easy and on the other end the second an abilities threatens to make whatever job suboptimal (whatever that means) it's out the door.

I totally get both sides and they have a place, but XIV throws out the baby with the bathwater and the end result isn't all that appealing long-term. To be fair, PvP is a really good start.

Originally Posted by Payadopa

No offense, but that's exactly the reason why jobs are boring, I'm sorry. The second something seems remotely fun another one brings up a calculator. I don't play a fantasy game to have boring abilities because a spreadsheet says so.

On one end we have casuals so most of the game with eye contact to the MSQ needs to stay easy and on the other end the second an abilities threatens to make whatever job suboptimal (whatever that means) it's out the door.

I totally get both sides and they have a place, but XIV throws out the baby with the bathwater and the end result isn't all that appealing long-term. To be fair, PvP is a really good start.

The problem isn't specifically that it's suboptimal. It's that it feels shitty to play. No one who has developed a strong understanding of the game's mechanics want so sit there and wait half a second to be able to continue their combo. Skill speed and spell speed are just bad stats conceptually for an RPG centered around cooldowns. There are other effects that could be more interesting and usable that we continue to not explore, but just like accuracy, skill speed and spell speed should've died years ago. Speed up mechanics should instead be built into the jobs that need them because that way it can be realistically controlled.

If we got more than 3 cleansable debuffs across every ounce of content added to the game in the span of 2 years, maybe debuff prevention would be a much greater asset, for example.