Thread: AST Adjustments 6.2

According to the patch reading notes for 6.1. Yoshi P said that Astro will be receiving major adjustments come patch 6.2. I am wondering what could they be doing other than maybe combining draw and play and minor arcana and arcana play. Maybe removing undraw.

But he said major adjustments. So wondering what else could the devs have up their sleeve for Astro.

What do you guys think?

The complete removal of Minor Arcana/Crown Play. If SE is willing to chop off something like Kaiten that has a fairly large impact on SAM for the sake of "button bloat", I fail to see why Minor Arcana would be safe. They haven't been able to decide WTF to do with the skill so I can see it being removed entirely. I can also see them removing the Seal mechanic and just making Astrodyne a 90s CD that has all 3 of its effects since the DPS gain from it is horribly low anyways and with the removal of Lord of Crowns, they can make adjustments as needed to buff up AST's damage a little more consistently without the whole song and dance of trying to align 2 Lord of Crowns in raid windows.

It's not ideal by any means but it's just something that I see happening.

I want them to consolidate Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play into one button each. Then add Sleeve Draw back in to get one guaranteed, fully charged Astrodyne every two minutes.
I also want Benefic I to naturally upgrade into Benefic II but I made another thread on that topic.

Knowing their track record, delete another core button in all likelihood

I doubt it will be a repeat of the 6.1 patch which threw the whm some crumbs at last, if they want make a lot of ex ast players happy and return to the role, it is getting their cards returned

I want Astrodyne to be an instant GCD attack where we throw a flurry of cards at the target. AST has way too many ogcds to weave during 2 minute windows which may or may not be coinciding with a mechanic that also needs ogcd heals.

All good suggestions. It’s just whenever SE says “Major Adjustments” it usually means they are most likely changing the job almost completely like they did with summoner. If it was just consolidating buttons I think Yoshi P would of most likely of just said that. I have a worry that whatever they are doing it’s going to completely change Ast from what we know now.

Originally Posted by SweetPete

All good suggestions. It’s just whenever SE says “Major Adjustments” it usually means they are most likely changing the job almost completely like they did with summoner. If it was just consolidating buttons I think Yoshi P would of most likely of just said that. I have a worry that whatever they are doing it’s going to completely change Ast from what we know now.

I would like to be hopeful but history doesn't indicate that they will make meaningful or positive changes to the job. Since the card system seems to be giving them so much trouble they may opt to remove it all together and just increase AST attack potencies to compensate, then add in even more oGCD heals because sure why not. I don't know why AST is the one getting major adjustments though. There are complaints sure, but of the healers AST isn't the one that has the most complaints. WHM seems to be the one that needs some kind of major adjustment.

Originally Posted by SieyaM

I would like to be hopeful but history doesn't indicate that they will make meaningful or positive changes to the job. Since the card system seems to be giving them so much trouble they may opt to remove it all together and just increase AST attack potencies to compensate, then add in even more oGCD heals because sure why not. I don't know why AST is the one getting major adjustments though. There are complaints sure, but of the healers AST isn't the one that has the most complaints. WHM seems to be the one that needs some kind of major adjustment.

What they might do, and I don't really know how accurate this realistically is as it's just a guess, is they might do something where the cards are separate CDs, and Draw becomes like Aetherflow where you draw one card and then manually choose The Balance, The Bole, etc. That sounds vaguely in line with how they've approached other jobs.

Originally Posted by SieyaM

I would like to be hopeful but history doesn't indicate that they will make meaningful or positive changes to the job. Since the card system seems to be giving them so much trouble they may opt to remove it all together and just increase AST attack potencies to compensate, then add in even more oGCD heals because sure why not. I don't know why AST is the one getting major adjustments though. There are complaints sure, but of the healers AST isn't the one that has the most complaints. WHM seems to be the one that needs some kind of major adjustment.

I can tell you why, because despite AST having one of the strongest healing kits out of all of them not many people are playing it, it is in fact the least played healer in savage, dungeons and extreme trials according to FFlogs (outside of P3S since Macrocosmos turns an actual difficult healcheck into a cakewalk).

WHM on the other hand was/is still one of the most played healers, even when it couldn't do anything as good as the other 3.


This has been ASTs fate for several expansions now, getting major reworks every time because it just isn't popular enough for SE's liking.