Thread: Regarding the reaction to 6.1 SAM changes

Originally Posted by Ayche

Well, I have never felt a need to think about meeting the kenki for Kaiten since even most basic Yukikaze combo gets you never for Kaiten since it is only 20 points.

Originally Posted by Ayche

Well, I have never felt a need to think about meeting the kenki for Kaiten since even most basic Yukikaze combo gets you the kenki for Kaiten since it is only 20 points. It is actually sometimes even hard to screw up,

It is correct that if they decided to buckle down and stick to current, even ShB SAM elements forever, it is possible to rearrange them in multiple ways to smooth out the damage. Like I can say that it could work, you could do that. Whether the values look right or feel right would be hard to judge, because would crit fishing Senei feel even worse due to its 2 minute timer or would feel weaker Kaiten+Midare itself feel bad? Like would it be worth it to keep all those actions in a watered down form? I don't know, you could bake in lot of conditional effects everywhere to keep it hard to solve.

I don't understand of your ironic, completely self unaware posts...

You start by arguing in the defense of the change based completely off a future hypothetical conflict.
And then you dismiss counter arguments to your position, because the counter arguments are all hypothetical?


What on earth are you even trying to explain in here at this point??

I mean, are you just entirely missing the entire point of the outcry from the SAM player base? The entire point is that we enjoyed our past game play experience and that IF there actually is a issue SE is trying to tackle, that SE does so while keeping the the theme of the class of which was the very reason in the first place we chose to play the class.

Yes, hypothetically some time in the future, SE could make SAM fun to play in a entirely different direction. That isn't the point at all.

The point is we enjoyed how the class was playing, and if a fix actually is needed to it, that it should still be in the theme of the class we came to love...



I mean, you have been so all over the place and contradicting of your very own posts... I don't even know what you are trying to express anymore.


Yes SE has f'd up other classes in the past and has slowly (extremely slowly in some cases) started to make them enjoyable/relevant again. The entirety of the SAM community hope is however, to avoid a change to a entirely different play-style, avoid having our Class be a bench warming class for a entirety of a expansion, and to still have the option of which they originally found available and enjoyable to play, still in the game (as that was what was retaining the interest of many of us in the first place). We may not be able to have an effect on SE's hypocritical and deceptive dev process (considering they made so many claims about listening to their player base) in any way...

But we are invested in the game. We enjoyed our time before 6.1. We now enjoy our time in the game less after. It is simple as that.