Players enjoying the current iteration of Job is "troublesome"

[Imoye]

Yoshi honestly needs to take a good hard look at what his dev team is doing. How can they begin to remove abilities mid-expansion and not expect people to be upset? This whole SAM thing is beyond ridiculous because no one has been asking for the changes they are implementing - and they came more or less out of nowhere. It's completely nonsensical! Never mind SMN who got their entire class basically deleted and reduced to a job that can be played with a one button macro.

Healer and tanks already play almost identically and people have been complaining about this for ages. Now they're doing the same to DPS and they don't understand why there's a backlash?! There is no way these people play their own game. No way.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Yoshi honestly needs to take a good hard look at what his dev team is doing. How can they begin to remove abilities mid-expansion and not expect people to be upset? This whole SAM thing is beyond ridiculous because no one has been asking for the changes they are implementing - and they came more or less out of nowhere. It's completely nonsensical! Never mind SMN who got their entire class basically deleted and reduced to a job that can be played with a one button macro.

It boggles my mind. You figure this dev team would be always on top of their game but its seems like they're getting distracted with other things and not properly thinking with their changes for the current job game. I seriously wish YoshiP or somebody at the dev team properly played EVERY.SINGLE.CLASS in this game because Im sure if they spent a good chunk of their time playing these classes then we probably wouldnt have such odd choices for job adjustment. Unless they seriously do play these classes and they're actually satisfied with their current class designs? There's no way anybody would be that dense.

[Xenon_S]

It boggles my mind. You figure this dev team would be always on top of their game but its seems like they're getting distracted with other things and not properly thinking with their changes for the current job game. I seriously wish YoshiP or somebody at the dev team properly played EVERY.SINGLE.CLASS in this game because Im sure if they spent a good chunk of their time playing these classes then we probably wouldnt have such odd choices for job adjustment. Unless they seriously do play these classes and they're actually satisfied with their current class designs? There's no way anybody would be that dense.

If we go by the credits, there are only 3 individuals named for the battle system designer section.
Three.

[Atelier-Bagur]

If we go by the credits, there are only 3 individuals named for the battle system designer section.
Three.

:C Thats sadge

I realize quantity doesnt necessarily equate quality, but maybe they should get more people for battle system design? Anything to have more devs give the dedicated amount of time to play all jobs. No picking favorites. The whole point of the combat is to make sure every class feels rewarding and fun to play first and foremost, not just "simple to understand". There's a difference there. Thats all I ask. Nobody who loves Samurai would want to have Kaiten removed. Nobody who loves healers would want to have to press the same damage button and dot button for the entirety of their dps downtime. We need these devs to please love these jobs, and I realize we cant force someone to LOVE a playstyle but at least give them the necessary care and attention to as much as how YoshiP does for Black Mage. Its his main and so obviously that class feels the most fun and rewarding to play currently because he's knows the ins and outs in how to maximize the job's potential.

[Jeeqbit]

If we go by the credits, there are only 3 individuals named for the battle system designer section.
Three.

Expansions release every 2 years (730 days). If you spent 730 days designing 3 new actions for a single job you would be bored for most of those days, so it makes a lot of sense for them to focus on multiple.

[Xenon_S]

Expansions release every 2 years (730 days). If you spent 730 days designing 3 new actions for a single job you would be bored for most of those days, so it makes a lot of sense for them to focus on multiple.

Go read Enhanced Unmend and tell me that they "focused" on multiple.

[aveyond-dreams]

Yoshi honestly needs to take a good hard look at what his dev team is doing. How can they begin to remove abilities mid-expansion and not expect people to be upset? This whole SAM thing is beyond ridiculous because no one has been asking for the changes they are implementing - and they came more or less out of nowhere. It's completely nonsensical! Never mind SMN who got their entire class basically deleted and reduced to a job that can be played with a one button macro.

Healer and tanks already play almost identically and people have been complaining about this for ages. Now they're doing the same to DPS and they don't understand why there's a backlash?! There is no way these people play their own game. No way.

Samurai needs some abilities purged but the fun power up button was absolutely the wrong one to get rid of. The class is unrecognizable compared to what I enjoyed of it back in Stormblood, and at present I have very little reason to touch or level it.

Yeah welcome to my life as summoner. We summoners were niche, and I figured they understood that the job was fullfilling a niche. But it seems like we were outnumbered by people who didn't even play the job and that's who Yoshi-P caters to. They're making these changes based entirely on how to attract as many people to play that job.

Old Summoner was a disaster with a reputation that was beyond saving. Glitches, bloat, and all. I wanted to like that class, but it was too far removed from what actual Final Fantasy summoners are. My final straw with that job was last expansion where I was ready to give up on it for good, only to be surprised by the 6.0 version I came to love. While the new version could use some more summons at least the class finally has a focus. Finally, as an FFXI SMN I have my job back in FFXIV.

The situation for healers is inexcusable but the 5.0 Tank changes (aside from Dark Knight) made running as tank far less of a headache than it used to be in the past. Good riddance to tank stance dancing and the abomination that was Flash. Enmity mechanics prior to Shadowbringers were a nuisance, if I'm a Black or Red Mage why on earth should Paladins be yelling at me to help them manage their aggro?

Overall I think a lot of this doom and gloom is overblown though this mess with Samurai shows that somewhere there was a massive communication error. That, and the inexplicable Hrothgar situation which is universally agreed to be unacceptable after 3 years of 0 progress.