Extremely disappointed with 6.1 MCH buffs

[Kitfox]

MCH was more than 5% behind BRD and DNC, the buffs amount to 2.4% which is not even half of that. MCH needs to do more damage than other physical ranged to be balanced.

MCH brings no utility to the group while both BRD and DNC have healing buffs, cleanses, heals, and shields. MCH has nothing. And still contributes less damage.

As if that wasn't enough, MCH has an anti-synergistic toolkit because Wildfire and Reassemble are unable to benefit from critical hit and direct hit buffs. So not only is MCH damage bad, its identity as a selfish dps that abuses raid buffs suffers because of crit/direct hit mechanics.

Additionally, MCH suffers from massive ping issues, issues that have been known for 4 years at this point. Ping was an issue in Stormblood, it was an issue in Shadowbringers, and it is an issue still in Endwalker. There has been zero improvements in the game mechanics to alleviate it.

NIN and now even DRK have been blessed with improvements to safe-guard against ping problems by adding charges and changing skill implementations, but not MCH, not after 4 years, there has not even been an acknowledgement of the feedback. In fact, at the start of Endwalker Yoshi-P said there is not enough feedback. What are we even supposed to do at this point to give any? None of it is being listened to.

To summarize:
- MCH is and continues to be the weakest ranged DPS
- MCH brings the worst utility to a raid group
- MCH rotation has anti-synergy with party buffs
- MCH has ping problems so only people near datacenters can play it adequately
- MCH has the lowest mobility out of ranged DPS

Edit: MCH is also the least mobile ranged DPS. DNC has En Avant, BRD has Repelling Shot (Now with 15 yalms!), MCH has nothing.

[CKNovel]

I'll never stop complaining about the Automaton Queen.

It's cool to see but not fun to use.
At the minimum, it's AI should be improved.

Flamethrower is also a relic and should be reworked.
I expected it for 6.0 but for some reason, Crown Collider and another charge of Reassemble was more important.

Outside these, I fully agree with you MCH needs these QoLs.
I'm getting tired of Yoshida saying the Dev read the feedback when the patchnote proves they don't even care about MCH.
6.1 buff is just moving things around to make it looks like they care.

How can I trust you when you disappoint and ignore us for years, now?
Even the JP side isn't amused with those changes.

[Malpercios]

Please listen to your community on this, SE. There has been MULTIPLE treads made by people (including the OP) about the ping issues that plague this job. Multiple easy fixes exist like simply reducing the animation lock on heatblast, gauss round and Ricochet. I get MCH is probably your least played job overall but some people truly want to enjoy it.

It needs more damage. These buffs while a good start still aren't no where near enough to make them compete with their peers. Especially since both bard and DNC will scale better when their team gets better. Heatblast on its own is barely able to compete with the base combo action and only out edges it due to its reset mechanic on our ogcds. Giving more potency on queen isn't what was needed. MCH was about 6% behind both bard and dancer, this isn't even half of what the job needed. Wildfire is still a very small part of our damage that cannot scale with crit or direct hit and is still one of the weakest 2 minutes. The PvP changes to the job look fantastic and bring back an old favorite of some in the form of bishop auto turret. Would it be possible to have similar changes done to the PvE side of things or at the very least make it competitive with the others?

You claim your view on balance should be bring the player not the job, yet it feels disheartening when my raid group has better kill times when I raid on either DNC or BRD who don't even have their raid weapons compared to my MCH which I raided with since HW. And it isn't a skill issue, I constantly rank in the top 50 MCH players in online rankings. Most of us aren't asking to become as strong as BLM or SAM but at least put us in a better place than last as a DPS that bring nothing to its team.

I get that MCH is no where near as popular as SAM or RPR and such and so little time is given to it but this is part of the issue. The job never gets to shine or have a spotlight. It's always dismissed as a secondary thought, or at least it feels like it. The last time where MCH felt like it was thought of was in HW. Most of stormblood it felt like an afterthought waiting to be reworked and then ShB's issues never got looked at to this day.

I am lucky I have a more hardcore static that doesn't force me to switch off my personal favorite job. A lot of groups simply just don't allow MCHs in them.

[Ayche]

Machinist will always be the best aDPS physical ranged, while also being the worst selfish dps for being physical ranged.
That is not actually a paradox, but part of the role system. Only thing you could do is fight against the role system itself if you want to, taxes and all that.

[gamerseb]

MCH is in such a terrible position that it makes me ashamed of using it in my static. We're suffering even more now than before, devs. Why are you doing this?

[Kitfox]

It really makes me want to switch classes just because it seems SE will not listen until nobody plays the class.

[Malpercios]

it's ok, maybe after another 50 posts about ping issues as well as talking bout how some players are forced to use 3rd party tools just to be able to play the job at higher ping they'll have the feedback they need since apparently no feedback was ever posted about this /s.

[CKNovel]

It really makes me want to switch classes just because it seems SE will not listen until nobody plays the class.

I went DRK for EW since I managed to snag the weapon. (Initially GNB but with 6.1 DRK...)
It feels good to be usefull to the team and not a dead weight because the Dev team doesn't care about MCH.

[Kitfox]

it's ok, maybe after another 50 posts about ping issues as well as talking bout how some players are forced to use 3rd party tools just to be able to play the job at higher ping they'll have the feedback they need since apparently no feedback was ever posted about this /s.

Luckily my post history is full of the feedback so I can pull it back from the archives. Just need someone to translate it into japanese and fax it to their offices.

[Malpercios]

Feels bad. I've been a lurker for a while and I know how much time and effort you put into these and the balance. Thank you for trying... maybe one day we'll see changes.