Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[CelestiCer]

You might think it's dumb,...

Why are so many horrible takes from Reaper mains? it's like a pattern.

And a lot of them on the Samurai threads as well for reasons I cannot explain. Even the once from the Kaiten Protest threads before 6.1 even hit the live servers when Samurai mains tried to plead and warn about the changes being horrible on April 1st, no " Joke ". Just malice posters openly admitting enjoying seeing other Jobs taking an L. Heck it's not even limited to just forums, like why?...

If Square keeps simplifying jobs, and you see it happening to DPS jobs or jobs in general? Clearly unacceptable changes, voicing support for it cause of whatever reasons? Like a company can't do no wrong - There's no positive if another Job suffers. Fill in any Job name, it just doesn't do anything to improve the game cause it then means the next Job to be simplified eventually is going to be yours. Just a matter of " when ".

• Multi billion dollar company btw
• Shown to be capable of doing major changes
• And doing Job adjustments even on minor patches

Heck, soon shown to have the abilities to implement " Data Center Travel in-game ". Compare that to " Tiny Job readjustments? " Would be like a flick of the wrist compared to that.

[darkdyllon]

I've never understood the Cir-Variance argument. I was told Damage-Variance in general never stood in the way of clearing ALL content.

Guaranteed Crits? might as well mean " I am not landing Crit's at all ".
Cause that is what it feels like, kicking the fun out of it.

Players wanting to have less Variance, sure? but honestly if it never was an issue to clear content? it sounds more like a nitpicking problem or an FFLogs/parsing problem. Not innately an FFXIV problem, cause we can clear content with the Damage Variances.

And it's also illogical cause we have jobs with Crit Variances other then Samurai. Not saying they need to suffer the same faith... ijs, it's not consistent to make an argument to support less DPS variance just for the Samurai changes... to fix 0 issues cause we can clear all content with or without DPS variance... when other Jobs still have DPS variances ontop of it.

yeah, i'm maining RDM for now and when i see a difference between getting no crit, no DH, then a crit or a crit/dh it's jarring.
we got 2 finishing moves that combo into each other (feels good aswel) but then i see 30-35k hit with a non crit, which is fine, but then an 50-60k hit when crit DH, this would be an major difference since that's twice, i'm basically missing out on an full finisher with just 2 crit/dh's. (i don't mind as getting that big 60k crit dh is an nice feeling, i have no influence over it, but that was the same back in Stormblood when i got an 200k crit+dh on my midare, just an straight dopamine rush)

i don't see why they don't wait and pool all the changes together for an big reveal, when they finally got their vision ready to go, instead of these bite sized patches that either ruin the job or slightly inconveniences the job (sam vs nin for example)
I get that they then can't have the whole testing of the playerbase, but this is also why i've been saying that FF14 NEEDS an PTS for job balancing, not actual content like WoW does, but just straight up job balancing, you know the boys/girls from the balance would jump on that, they're often better at this than the actual people hired by SE.

[Sorzai]

I swear this isn't the first post I've seen about adding back Kaiten. Tbh someone should start a petition to get kaiten back.

[Mortex]

OH NO! My MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR COMPANY is having trouble balancing jobs? Better just simplify everything so that balancing is easier. That way we can put more man-hours into modelling garish outfits for our cash shop in our PAID SUB MMO.

I get wanting to play devil's advocate, but all you're doing is making the Devs sound greedy and lazy. Even if you're right, and that's exactly why they're baby-proofing the game's combat, almost everyone in this thread likely agrees that's a terrible reason to move in this direction. It's anti-fun for the players, no matter why they do it.

Remember when they said in one of the live letter “always remember the player/fans without them the game would be dead” well looks like if you get famous and big enough you just don’t like too listen to the player base anymore. I remember when blizzard did this, with the famous quote “You think you do, but you don't" and we can see how Bad they do right now.

[Colt47]

Why are so many horrible takes from Reaper mains? it's like a pattern.

And a lot of them on the Samurai threads as well for reasons I cannot explain. Even the once from the Kaiten Protest threads before 6.1 even hit the live servers when Samurai mains tried to plead and warn about the changes being horrible on April 1st, no " Joke ". Just malice posters openly admitting enjoying seeing other Jobs taking an L. Heck it's not even limited to just forums, like why?...

If Square keeps simplifying jobs, and you see it happening to DPS jobs or jobs in general? Clearly unacceptable changes, voicing support for it cause of whatever reasons? Like a company can't do no wrong - There's no positive if another Job suffers. Fill in any Job name, it just doesn't do anything to improve the game cause it then means the next Job to be simplified eventually is going to be yours. Just a matter of " when ".

• Multi billion dollar company btw
• Shown to be capable of doing major changes
• And doing Job adjustments even on minor patches

Heck, soon shown to have the abilities to implement " Data Center Travel in-game ". Compare that to " Tiny Job readjustments? " Would be like a flick of the wrist compared to that.

Ignoring the comment on "reaper mains", whenever there is a change to how something works in a game, it's going to alienate some portion of the old userbase. This is actually pretty tame compared to the big shift in direction that happened years ago when the game went from 2.0 to 3.0. It's just a lot of people who are playing right now never played the game since the beginning or before that. Personally, I actually started in 1.0 FFXIV and played all the way through until now, even got the legacy tattoo of all things.

IMO, Yoshi P. made the game direction pretty clear ages ago and the changes that are happening in Endwalker are not deviating from the path he was suggesting. Is it different than some folks expect? Yes. Is it upsetting to those people? Of course it is because plenty of people also didn't like where the game went after 3.0. DRK mains from Heavensward still hate the changes and direction of DRK.

[CelestiCer]

*snip*

Yup, and that doesn't grant them immunity to any critique / negative-feedback / nor excuses they made to force changes down our throats, even at times illogical and even against what they clearly stated themselves i.e " Button-Bloat? ".

Your state of veterancy does not change rather I do need to accept or do enjoy the changes or not. I clearly do not. And they can continue down with negative changes and there are people who will swallow that yes. Though eventually, 1 too many negative changes? is going to be 1 too many.

[Colt47]

Yup, and that doesn't grant them immunity to any critique / negative-feedback / nor excuses they made to force changes down our throats, even at times illogical and even against what they clearly stated themselves i.e " Button-Bloat? ".

Your state of veterancy does not change rather I do need to accept or do enjoy the changes or not. I clearly do not. And they can continue down with negative changes and there are people who will swallow that yes. Though eventually, 1 too many negative changes? is going to be 1 too many.

I mentioned being a player since 1.0 to state that change is inevitable and that I've seen the kind of critique and feedback the forum sometimes gives. There is rallying for support for a potential idea, and then there is directionless grumbling or demanding of reverting a change. The one consistent thing is that grumbling for reverting a change has never once resulted in that change being reverted.

[YellowLine]

IMO, Yoshi P. made the game direction pretty clear ages ago and the changes that are happening in Endwalker are not deviating from the path he was suggesting.

Just because he made the direction clear doesn't mean we have to agree with it. Yoshi-P isn't infallible. NOBODY is infallible. Stop pretending we should swallow our pride and accept these asinine changes just because "Muh Yoshi-P said so".

[YellowLine]

There is rallying for support for a potential idea, and then there is directionless grumbling or demanding of reverting a change.

Even if you think we're just grumbling (which we're not, but go off I guess), that's no excuse to dismiss our feedback. Companies/artists shouldn't ignore criticism just because it isn't presented exactly the way they want it to be presented. That's seriously limiting. Again, if this is really what the devs are doing, that's awful. And it isn't magically okay just because the devs supposedly know better.

[ThorneDynasty]

Just because he made the direction clear doesn't mean we have to agree with it. Yoshi-P isn't infallible. NOBODY is infallible. Stop pretending we should swallow our pride and accept these asinine changes just because "Muh Yoshi-P said so".

The hilarious thing is that I think this is the same poster who was demanding BLM be rebuilt to their personal preferences into another milquetoast ranged job. To surprise of no one the direction Yoshi-P is clearly setting only matters when they agree with it.