Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[Roxus]

Honestly I've been waiting so long, I started reaching out to my old friend circles outside FFXIV. I've concluded this game's combat is a waste of time at this point, it doesn't respect your time in the slightest. As someone else has said, this game is a glorified chat room. A lot of my friends and static are also quitting for various reasons in how the game is designed, especially raids. This is coming from a group of players who have been tackling savage and ultimate raids for years now. Anyone who enjoys the game - I hope you continue to do so. I don't anymore and neither do the friends I log in for. Unless the devs tell me they made a mistake and are going to focus on improving the entire combat and job system in general, I can't support them. They can't even admit the Samurai changes were a failure and as predicted, have stayed silent so it will die down.

As I mentioned in the JP thread, the only feedback they seem to take is money. A game that can't even muster a one line response to the feedback is insulting when you see a plethora of other issues pass by and are formally addressed in paragraphs upon paragraphs. Not even asking for the changes itself to be reverted immediately - literally a one line response would have been enough. For a sub based game, how the community's issues are treated are a slap in the face. One of the first to use streams to address certain issues and such, now it's just hyping up their content and not much else. The time they use on stream has gradually shifted away from addressing concerns or giving explanations. If this is the result of wanting to be tight lipped about literally everything, well it doesn't work. Anyone with eyes can see the changes are clearly not well received and denying that is just ignorant. Dodging long standing issues for so long and not formally addressing them is just insulting, and you know which issues I am talking about, it's not only Samurai.

[Soge01]

The devs will have to learn the hard way not to simplify their content for a potential majority.

If any other MMO can offer the amount of casual content XIV currently has, such as housing, Gold Saucer and all that other stuff, on top of giving the playerbase real individualized job classes and a flora of different diffculty adjustable content, then XIV will suffer a slow and painful death if they don't change their ways.

I don't hate XIV, I just want to see this game improve. But when they make sudden changes to content, such as Job class design and continue to ignore massive amounts of feedback on it. Well...I wouldn't mind the devs getting fed a some humble pie. Especially since they've been doing what they are doing now to Samurai to Tanks and Healer roles for years.

It took them several years to finally fix DRK's Living Dead ability because they were so stubborn about how if they changed it then it would strip the identity from the job. Which, ironically, they had already done that years ago back in SB when they removed literally everything that actually gave that job what little identity it had and turned it into Warrior with extra buttons, lmao!

[AsiTsurugi]

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These devs making a mistake? Never. Don't you worry, we will get a "I am SO sorry that you don't want to play the game anymore, see you never because I am never wrong. Oh, btw, our PR team talked to Asmongold again to make him play the game again for a bit, so you can get lost, we will get our revenue anyway" from Yoshida any day now.

Also you say "hyping up content", but I fail to see what content this game has that demands 15 dollars a month to access. It's clear the game is on life support for a couple of years now because they are siphoning money off of it for FF16. Raids? Watered down to nothing. Dungeons? Less than half the volume of what it was prior to Shadowbringers. Open world? Does not exist. Jobs? "It's too hard for our tiny brains to wrap our heads around decent class design so lol". Only "content" they seem to be capable of is a story that's not as good as some single-player games but requires 15 dollars a month and full box price to access, and "leveling". And once all of that is done? "Yoshida said you can unsub and come back whenever you want xd". I want to know the "coming back" rate of players that unsubbed from this game. I can't imagine that's a lot given it barely has anything for people to come back to for the premium it demands for access.

Also you talked about SE not addressing issues. Clearly feedback or players that are not "influencers" or "journalists" don't matter if you are outside JP. Connection issues and packet loss for years in NA and EU? "Get off of that wi-fi xd". Lobby issues? "Get off of that wi-fi xd". Connection issues in JP? "Give us your network logs and we will contact ISPs right now". Feedback of any kind that does not raise a stink in social media or outside forums? "lol keep crying, we have better things to do like milking as much cash off of you as possible". I have not seen another company that is so blatantly against other regions that still gets puts on a pedestal undeservedly by a playerbase in a parasocial relation with it.

Coming to think of it, the BLM PvP changes were addressed that quickly because of some memes. I guess it's time to make memes on social media about this company's incompetence and I imagine there will be responses in double time.

[xAFROx]

These devs making a mistake? Never. Don't you worry, we will get a "I am SO sorry that you don't want to play the game anymore, see you never because I am never wrong. Oh, btw, our PR team talked to Asmongold again to make him play the game again for a bit, so you can get lost, we will get our revenue anyway" from Yoshida any day now.

Also you say "hyping up content", but I fail to see what content this game has that demands 15 dollars a month to access. It's clear the game is on life support for a couple of years now because they are siphoning money off of it for FF16. Raids? Watered down to nothing. Dungeons? Less than half the volume of what it was prior to Shadowbringers. Open world? Does not exist. Jobs? "It's too hard for our tiny brains to wrap our heads around decent class design so lol". Only "content" they seem to be capable of is a story that's not as good as some single-player games but requires 15 dollars a month and full box price to access, and "leveling". And once all of that is done? "Yoshida said you can unsub and come back whenever you want xd". I want to know the "coming back" rate of players that unsubbed from this game. I can't imagine that's a lot given it barely has anything for people to come back to for the premium it demands for access.

Also you talked about SE not addressing issues. Clearly feedback or players that are not "influencers" or "journalists" don't matter if you are outside JP. Connection issues and packet loss for years in NA and EU? "Get off of that wi-fi xd". Lobby issues? "Get off of that wi-fi xd". Connection issues in JP? "Give us your network logs and we will contact ISPs right now". Feedback of any kind that does not raise a stink in social media or outside forums? "lol keep crying, we have better things to do like milking as much cash off of you as possible". I have not seen another company that is so blatantly against other regions that still gets puts on a pedestal undeservedly by a playerbase in a parasocial relation with it.

Coming to think of it, the BLM PvP changes were addressed that quickly because of some memes. I guess it's time to make memes on social media about this company's incompetence and I imagine there will be responses in double time.

I'd unsub and come back for major patch cycles maybe.... but it's just easier to keep a yearly sub auto-paid... also, I have a personal and fc house to ensure doesn't get demolished.

[Rolder50]

I'd unsub and come back for major patch cycles maybe.... but it's just easier to keep a yearly sub auto-paid... also, I have a personal and fc house to ensure doesn't get demolished.

Being held hostage by house demolition, classic.

[Soge01]

Being held hostage by house demolition, classic.

Something that shouldn't even be a thing in the game. Really messes with players who tend to dip in and out between monthly subs. Not everybody can stay subbed to this game year around. They want to respect a player's time and not lock them into be invested in the game, then they really should start working on ways to actually resolving the housing issue.

The lottery system, in my opinion, was a great way to finally give players a healthier way to get a house. But they need to keep going and think of more ways to improve opportunities for everyone to own a house of some sort in every conceivable way possible.

Apartments are nice for players who just want the basic indoor system without the submarine feature and such.

Keep putting out more choices in housing types across the game and everyone will eventually have their own preferred type of home.

Back on topic though, I'm looking forward to the devs finally being forced to realize a couple years down the line that making everything accessible to everyone is a seriously unhealthy mindset when designing an MMO.


WoW has a huge problem with leaning way to hard in designing all their content to hardcore players, while FFXIV leans just as hard in the other direction when it comes to casual content and accessibility.

Again, the devs, after finally realizing going so hard in the direction of making everything casual accessible is actually a terrible idea need to focus on striking a balance between the former and hardcore content so they can actually achieve a more realistic goal of appealing to "everyone" without alienating either side so much and thus causing the natural creation of midcore content for players who are stuck inbetween either one.

Samurai has always been a relatively easy job to pick up and a fun experience to master when wanting to get down all those little secret nuances the job has. Streamlining it suddenly because it hits too hard and your devs being too afraid to think outside the self limiting role boxes they put themselves in shouldn't be used as an excuse to butcher the appeal of the job.

The new PvP jobs show the job designing side of the devs that they can make something uinque and great. They just need to treat each job, such as Samurai as a unique branch within the role they are placed under and not just "BEEP BOOP! MELEE DPS #3! BEEP BOP".

[CelestiCer]

Don't worry our concerns for the job changes we received will be addressed...

" Oh wait! " gotta acknowledge Housing Lottery F up and
" Oh wait! " gotta apologize for that and
" Oh wait! " PvP hacking issue and
" Oh wait! " another Mogstation update and surely after that then
" Oh wait! " Lewd Aventure plates! well gotta acknowledge that and then we finally
" Oh wait! " another RMT issue addressed! well Square idk as I read that I was in Ul'Dah just seeing another RMT shout and
" Oh wait! " BLM PVP overtuned? well gotta address that and


Well at this point I am trying to control my body fluids, because...


" Oh wait! " EMOTE Teacup Mogstation update wow well that really will
" Oh wait! " Addressing another RMT update, even though I still read RMT shouts in-game
" Oh wait! " ...Creating New Jobs is really difficult, whah!? gotta really announce that and then...
" Oh wait! " LYSE Attire and now we can really really " Oh wait! "

" Oh Wait! " an apology for the BLM changes? well then
" Oh Wait! " an immediate BLM adjustment? that fast? indie-company Square can do that?
" Oh Wait! " The Primals Live concert! and then...


Oh Wait! " The Live Letter "

Well slap me silly and call me a " 4 day Free trial ", anyone else passing the bong on the copium? Will they even address it? will they dodge the bullet? will I get another poster complaining about there being another Samurai thread or post? Will I finally stfu?

1 can only hopium so much...

[KurenXIV]

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Pass the hopium this way please ;D

My biggest fear is they go right into job changes and they go over their (most likely) awful changes to DRG and AST and then we will all know it's truly over . . . only time will tell (I hope I'm wrong).

[ThorneDynasty]

" Oh Wait! " an apology for the BLM changes? well then
" Oh Wait! " an immediate BLM adjustment? that fast? indie-company Square can do that?
" Oh Wait! " The Primals Live concert! and then...


Oh Wait! " The Live Letter "

Well slap me silly and call me a " 4 day Free trial ", anyone else passing the bong on the copium? Will they even address it? will they dodge the bullet? will I get another poster complaining about there being another Samurai thread or post? Will I finally stfu?

1 can only hopium so much...

It honestly feels like they are ignoring criticism out of pettiness now because they are offended the feedback for SAM wasn't professionally nice like you'd receive from paid QA testers... which it won't be if you instead use paying customers to test your game. Who'd thunk.

[fanzine]

The 1. is a bit too much utopian for me,

but i hope it will be at least the 2..