Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[YukiB]

My guess is they're having trouble with the kenki cost of Kaiten in the opener and burst. Maybe they want to add more kenki skills but can't find the room because we're sort of locked into using Kaiten on iaijutsu. Its value is hard to beat.

They seem to be having problems in general with finding space for all the new shiny skills in openers, hence why they keep removing GCDs and oGCDs from NIN and making their raid wide buff 20 seconds long. It's ultimately a problem of their own making because they decided everything has to revolve around 2 minute burst windows.

We generate 135 kenki in the opener, and Kaiten eats up 80 of it. This may be why they reduced the kenki cost of Senei/Guren from 50 to 25, because we now have to throw in extra Kaiten to buff Ogi Namikiri and a 2nd Midare. There's technically 30 kenki still available in the opener, but some of that may fall out of buffs depending on timing.

Even if this is the case, there are still better solutions than outright removing Kaiten, especially now when it's not a problem.

• Remove Senei's kenki cost completely. It's not like we'll ever not have the kenki for it since it lines up with Ikishoten. This saves 25 kenki in the opener
• Reduce the kenki cost of Kaiten to 10 and make it buff iaijutsu only. Yeah, it'll further trivialize kenki management but if they want to give us a new shiny to make up for it, I'll take it. This will save 40 kenki in the opener
• Have Meikyo Shisui generate an additional 5 kenki per GCD. This adds 30 kenki to the opener

[CelestiCer]

My guess is they're having trouble with the kenki cost of Kaiten in the opener and burst. Maybe they want to add more kenki skills but can't find the room because we're sort of locked into using Kaiten on iaijutsu. Its value is hard to beat.

This is why initially I thought they would turn Kaiten into a 30 second buff x y z specific skills with potency/guaranteed Crits. The other was removing Tsubame-gaeshi and Kaeshi: Namikiri and putting all the potency in Midare Setsugekka on Ogi Namikiri for one hard hit each. They could also increase the Meditation Gauge to hold more Meditation charges for more new skill executions. Note: Not that I want these changes btw... It's more so...

What the heck did they needed space for? This Action Bloat issue, without a crystal ball we don't know we're guessing and creating solutions for problems we can't see. All we can deduce is " they want more space probably? thus we need to make space? what changes are we willing to accept. " and it's theory crafting... and it's just frustrating.

Like is the next thing Shoha III? Advanced Midare? Tsujigiri? Mugai-ryu? are we getting a series of attacks like Kenjutsu similiar to our Iaijutsu? Jigen-ryu? <- btw i am just throwing Samurai terminologies out there I have no idea... honestly I have no clue...