Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[MTReddy]

I, like many other sam players, have made an account here just to voice my dissatisfaction with the changes to samurai. I knew from the moment it was announced that the job would become dull as a result of removing Kaiten. A lot of people told me then that our DPS would be buffed to compensate, so it doesn't matter. This has been so frustrating to me, because I think a job being fun to play should be much more important than whether or not the DPS is good. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest whether the change resulted in a DPS buff or a DPS nerf - what I care about is that samurai is no longer a fun and satisfying job to play. If they care about what we have to say at all, then please revert these changes.

[AltanaTheKaitenless]

make samurai great again #RevertPatch6.1Changes

[Roxus]

I've updated my post since the post limit on these forums are strange. Discontent is rising across communities and third party forums. Keep your feedback civil and let your voice be heard. These changes are not acceptable. Even the tooltips paint the image that this is an afterthought. There is no justification for cast bars now.

We are put in a full body cast to prepare for a change that isn't here, if there even is any.

[Jarvice]

At the moment I'd rather see these changes reverted. Or they change Sam significantly enough to justify removing Kaiten, which I wouldn't even recommend since Sam seemed in a pretty good spot right now.

[Kini199]

I agree, SAM now feels by far the worst i have ever played. No one complained about Kaiten, and now we dont know what to do with our kenki but just shinten spam, feels clunkier, less appealing and overall it wasnt even a dps improvement, just a worse job with less exciting things(Crit peaks and smoother rotation). If anything they could have kept the potency on Ogi Namikiri and remove its Aoe property, feels so weirdly planned to me, there were actions far worse than Kaiten, like Shoha and Shoha 2... I´m really dissapointed, will stick to pvp for now until i get bored.

[Fable_Frost]

Revert 6.1 PvE SAM changes.

[Spiderllama]

Please revert the changes. This feels awful.

[Ziggurat8]

I have to agree. The removal of Kaiten feels awful. The finishers are lackluster now. This is not what Samurai players wanted or asked for. Revert to 6.0 Sam.

[ShanaShirayuki]

Agreed, great post. The soul and excitement of the class is gone. However, a QoL change I would ask for as well would be the consolidation of Shoha II into Shoha and Guren into Senei with AoE fall-off damage; similar to how RDM has it with Verholy and Verflare.

[Edweena]

Agreed, great post. The soul and excitement of the class is gone. However, a QoL change I would ask for as well would be the consolidation of Shoha II into Shoha and Guren into Senei with AoE fall-off damage; similar to how RDM has it with Verholy and Verflare.

There's an even better solution to Guren and Senei.

Neither gets removed, but instead are made into unassignable actions that can only be used under a buff called.... "Hissatu Ready" which is granted by Ikishoten like "Ogi Namikiri ready"
Shinten and Kyuten change into Senei and Guren under "Hissatu Ready" and the buff is consumed when you use one or the other.

This reduces the issue of potentially drifting Ikishoten and Senei / Guren like it does now, and removes TWO BUTTONS, NOT JUST ONE, WHILE STILL RETAINING THAT "CHOICE" or w/e people like about having 2 of these fucking abilities.
There is no downside to this, as we don't have to choose between keeping one of them, and everybody wins while the skill floor is lowered in a meaningful way that doesn't affect Samurai's skill ceiling.
It makes even more sense since well, Senei and Guren are just upgraded Shinten and Kyuten, they even have the same kenki cost lol.
Absolutely the #1 thing I would suggest.