Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[Ruminous]

They don't believe there's anything wrong with samurai. That's the whole thing. Much as we'd like to think there is a problem with current samurai (there is, we can acknowledge that), the people SE don't believe so. They saw a problem, fixed it, and moved on. The backlash they got only got them not to throw in more hamfisted and terrible changes in the middle of an expansion, but rather wait until a new one.

[Thursdays]

At this point I expect SE to make an apology for the changes, but keep them in the game because they don't want to lose face - even though they know it's wrong to do so. They'll give us the promise of incredible plans ahead and "it's all going to be revealed at a later date".

It's what started WoW's downfall too, so I'm not surprised to see the cycle repeat itself.

[butchersblock]

At this point I expect SE to make an apology for the changes, but keep them in the game because they don't want to lose face - even though they know it's wrong to do so. They'll give us the promise of incredible plans ahead and "it's all going to be revealed at a later date".

It's what started WoW's downfall too, so I'm not surprised to see the cycle repeat itself.

That's most likely what's going to happen, yeah. Yoshida said that the 2nd LL would be to address and explain the changes, not talk about improving it. They think it's the right call to stick to them and hope that more weak excuses for them will make people understand their point of view more, and eventually forget about it in some vague hope that everything will be better in 7.0

[Vencio]

That's most likely what's going to happen, yeah. Yoshida said that the 2nd LL would be to address and explain the changes, not talk about improving it. They think it's the right call to stick to them and hope that more weak excuses for them will make people understand their point of view more, and eventually forget about it in some vague hope that everything will be better in 7.0

Unlikely,

Valiant but unlikely

[butchersblock]

you really enjoy throwing random adjectives out don't you

[Vencio]

you really enjoy throwing random adjectives out don't you

Why further persist for changes as though you’re stuck in limbo & under denial?

It’s a wonder why even continue on.

Kaiten is no longer present, nor will it return, the job still exists

[CelestiCer]

*snip*

I agree, accompanied with no justifications for the unacceptable changes I'm sure of it. Though, some unlikely souls here would to the surprise of no one, say otherwise. Hehe, perhaps a individual that has changed their " achievements " very recently to private... I believe I touched a nerve hehe

" Opinions based off experience, has more likely validity vs less or none "

Thus if anyone happens to see " Very Valiant " frequent posters?
Consider directing them to the " https://discord.gg/thebalanceffxiv "

Open discussions, comparing takes viewable to experienced passionate longtime players, unbound by the FFXIV forum-format limitations. With a section for each Job including " SAM ". Though posh-wine-sipping-bs/ poor takes, specially with lack of SAM or general PVE-combat experience, could be called out by countless experienced players. Unless calculated/factual scrutiny, isn't their cup of tea.

[Vencio]

I agree, accompanied with no justifications for the unacceptable changes I'm sure of it. Though, some unlikely souls here would to the surprise of no one, say otherwise. Hehe, perhaps a individual that has changed their " achievements " very recently to private... I believe I touched a nerve hehe

" Opinions based off experience, has more likely validity vs less or none "

Thus if anyone happens to see " Very Valiant " frequent posters?
Consider directing them to the " https://discord.gg/thebalanceffxiv "

Open discussions, comparing takes viewable to experienced passionate longtime players, unbound by the FFXIV forum-format limitations. With a section for each Job including " SAM ". Though posh-wine-sipping-bs/ poor takes, specially with lack of SAM or general PVE-combat experience, could be called out by countless experienced players. Unless calculated/factual scrutiny, isn't their cup of tea.

You’ve taken a sweet delight & account for me; it brightened my day

How long must you keep this charade despite something that once was & thus no more?

[Reese_Clairdale]

I legitimately don't understand why people who want the game to remain stagnant or become worse waste their time posting here. Congratulations! You are already getting exactly what you want.

The forum, and especially this thread, are for feedback and critique. Not for displaying your complete lack of standards.

[Nizzi]

I legitimately don't understand why people want the game to remain stagnant or become worse waste their time posting here. Congratulations! You are already getting exactly what you want.

The forum, and especially this thread, are for feedback and critique. Not for displaying your complete lack of standards.

A lot of people who play this game do not only want to not put in any effort themselves, they hate the idea that a player who puts in effort can get better results than them entirely. The most paradoxical element of this phenomenon is that these players almost never do any of the content where that effort matters and instead are content to stay in the content where the disparity of effort doesn't matter at all. You'll notice that no matter how much gutting the developers do to jobs to appeal to these types of players, they will simply never ever go into the content that SE is trying to corral them into, eliminating the point entirely and just making people who want to improve and think upset and frustrated. So they post here only because they enjoy the fact that they can gloat and taunt you because they got their way and the "toxic hardcore elitists" are upset. It's best to just ignore them, they have nothing of value to say and contribute nothing meaningful.