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  1. #581
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    Ruminous's Avatar
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    Minerva Goldwinne
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Laughable by disagreeing otherwise & be called troll all the same as some of you have done so for others?

    Listen i am even getting tired of it
    You again, are either willfully blind and trolling or incredibly stupid and trolling. Your post history is RIGHT THERE. Celeste even linked you a bunch of posts you put that are just "more than disagreeing". People have no problem with not liking the opinions of others. They do have a problem when you walk into a room, laugh at them, and troll them. So if you're so tired of it, then the best option for you is to simply leave. Pick one, buddy. I know which you'll pick though, but I still had to say it.

    And what IS your opinion on these changes, or why you like them? Because apart from troll reasons, you've never even stated that. There, found something else.
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    Last edited by Ruminous; 07-17-2022 at 12:34 PM.

  2. #582
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruminous View Post
    You again, are either willfully blind and trolling or incredibly stupid and trolling. Your post history is RIGHT THERE. Celeste even linked you a bunch of posts you put that are just "more than disagreeing". People have no problem with not liking the opinions of others. They do have a problem when you walk into a room, laugh at them, and troll them. So if you're so tired of it, then the best option for you is to simply leave. Pick one, buddy. I know which you'll pick though, but I still had to say it.

    And what IS your opinion on these changes, or why you like them? Because apart from troll reasons, you've never even stated that. There, found something else.
    But I did gave my opinion & still wasn’t taken lightly xD

    What else do I need to prove otherwise? lol
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  3. #583
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    Ruminous's Avatar
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    Minerva Goldwinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    But I did gave my opinion & still wasn’t taken lightly xD

    What else do I need to prove otherwise? lol
    You have failed to do so, on multiple times. Why these changes are good in the current time, what they could hope to expect for samurais in the future. You've insulted people, roleplayed being superior, pretended/feigned ignorance when confronted on your trollish/bad behavior. I've said my piece and the proof's on full display in that you've A) Failed to read the room and B) Presented good faith arguments in favor of your view point. Consider this the last response I'll give you, until you can demonstrate in the future that you can offer good debate. Because right now you're still being willfully ignorant, as well as any further responses from me will continue this cycle until I grow bored in which you can say you "achieved victory" on an online forum. Which if that makes you feel good and validates you, then congrats to you, I guess.

    Don't forget, as I've said for the upteenth time, that your entire post history is there for us to read. There are no secrets here.
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    Last edited by Ruminous; 07-17-2022 at 02:53 PM.

  4. #584
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruminous View Post
    You have failed to do so, on multiple times. Why these changes are good in the current time, what they could hope to expect for samurais in the future. You've insulted people, roleplayed being superior, pretended/feigned ignorance when confronted on your trollish/bad behavior. I've said my piece and the proof's on full display in that you've A) Failed to read the room and B) Presented good faith arguments in favor of your view point. Consider this the last response I'll give you, until you can demonstrate in the future that you can offer good debate. Because right now you're still being willfully ignorant.

    Don't forget, as I've said for the upteenth time, that your entire post history is there for us to read. There are no secrets here.
    Okie dokie
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  5. #585
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    Rekun Elakha
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Okie dokie
    holy crap he's shaking... he doesn't know what to say in retaliation. are you ok vencio? do you need a juicebox?
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  6. #586
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    Ryuuko Souha
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    Man these phantom bumps are amazing. I don't even need to keep my own topic alive.

    It's been pretty quiet in the JP side for OF specifically. Elsewhere well...there is a lot of toxic memes regarding the situation. Since they keep tabs on such places let's hope they understand how bad the situation actually is for all job balance.
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  7. #587
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    Jinn Goda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    Man these phantom bumps are amazing. I don't even need to keep my own topic alive.

    It's been pretty quiet in the JP side for OF specifically. Elsewhere well...there is a lot of toxic memes regarding the situation. Since they keep tabs on such places let's hope they understand how bad the situation actually is for all job balance.
    All that's left to do is wait for August. If the 2nd part of the LL goes without addressing the issues that's pretty much any hope for the game gone for me
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  8. #588
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    Man these phantom bumps are amazing. I don't even need to keep my own topic alive.

    It's been pretty quiet in the JP side for OF specifically. Elsewhere well...there is a lot of toxic memes regarding the situation. Since they keep tabs on such places let's hope they understand how bad the situation actually is for all job balance.
    Like I did say already, they pretty much did already verbal murder on the Japanese side too them for the Sam fluff ups they did since endwalker release. Japanese player are the most passionate about the game if I have ever seen a gaming scene and samurai has a massive player base there, like how can you do these changes, ask for feedback and then jut ignore it. It’s like healer pruning we’re they ask for feedback and just ignore it like what ???
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  9. #589
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Personally I found that jobs with complicated rotations like SAM, NIN, MNK and DNC (yes I think DNC is complicated) were outside of my ability to play well and BLM isn't to my liking either. I'm very used to RDM, DRG, BRD and PLD. Does that mean I want the other jobs that aren't to my liking changed so I can play them just as well? Of course not! If other people are able to manage those jobs and prefer them because they are complex then let them enjoy it. I'd rather my preferences were kept to a select few so I can fully focus on optimizing those jobs and having them geared instead of burning myself out gearing every single job at 90 to BiS and learning all their rotations. I don't NEED to be great at every job. And ok I can play SAM a bit better now and warming to it a little bit, but like 80% of the jobs on my character sheet as soon as it's 90 it's being hung to dry until the next expansion. I really feel bad for the players who enjoyed these jobs and played them as their mains and are now giving up on them because they've been changed so much that they're lackluster.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 07-19-2022 at 01:52 AM.
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  10. #590
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    *snip*
    To practically keep up with the " Oh wait! " list, since SE managed to address and fix multiple issues for 4 months going into 5 months now, but has YET to be able to even address ours. Lets update that list...

    As of 6.1, they have not addressed any of the Samurai feedback they requested - however? you will all be pleased to know they done the following
    • Housing lottery screw up acknowledged
    • Housing lottery screw up apology
    • PvP hacking issue acknowledged
    • Mogstation update announcement
    • Lewd Adventure plates acknowledged
    • RMT issues being addressed Announcement
    • Blackmage PvP overtuned Acknowledged
    • Mogstation update new Emote, Teacup announcement
    • RMT issues being addressed 2nd time announcement
    • Interview about New Jobs being difficult to create
    • RMT issues being addressed 3rd time announcement
    • Mogstation update, Lyse Attire announcement
    • Blackmage PVP overtuned changes announcement
    • Game update, immediate Blackmage PVP adjustments
    • Housing lottery screw up fix announcement
    • Live Concert - Primals
    • Live Letter with a bunch of content
    And it continues on ...
    • Live Letter with a bunch of content with AST DRG update postponed not clarified
    • Update announcement - Fan Kit (" whatever this is " )
    • World Data center travel released! announcement
    • World Data center travel Errors and Issues announcement
    • RMT issues being addressed for the 4th freaking time announcement " Here "
    • EU DataCenter Expansion announcement
    • JP DataCenter Expansion announcement
    • World world transfer service apology announcement " Here "
    • World world transfer service fix recovery announcement " Here "

    Anyone can mention that SE has different departments/teams for different tasks. But this entire list showcases waht they can do since 6.1 SAM changes for 4 months. Shocker to no one, it's a big GamingCompany. Yet, they can't address the feedback they requested from players. Not a instant fix btw, just an address or acknowledgement. Not even that... just " Silence "


    " Remember us ", right was it?
    Remember, that we once had our voices heard.
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    Last edited by CelestiCer; 07-20-2022 at 03:19 AM.

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