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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    Man these phantom bumps are amazing. I don't even need to keep my own topic alive.

    It's been pretty quiet in the JP side for OF specifically. Elsewhere well...there is a lot of toxic memes regarding the situation. Since they keep tabs on such places let's hope they understand how bad the situation actually is for all job balance.
    All that's left to do is wait for August. If the 2nd part of the LL goes without addressing the issues that's pretty much any hope for the game gone for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    Man these phantom bumps are amazing. I don't even need to keep my own topic alive.

    It's been pretty quiet in the JP side for OF specifically. Elsewhere well...there is a lot of toxic memes regarding the situation. Since they keep tabs on such places let's hope they understand how bad the situation actually is for all job balance.
    Like I did say already, they pretty much did already verbal murder on the Japanese side too them for the Sam fluff ups they did since endwalker release. Japanese player are the most passionate about the game if I have ever seen a gaming scene and samurai has a massive player base there, like how can you do these changes, ask for feedback and then jut ignore it. It’s like healer pruning we’re they ask for feedback and just ignore it like what ???
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    They don't believe there's anything wrong with samurai. That's the whole thing. Much as we'd like to think there is a problem with current samurai (there is, we can acknowledge that), the people SE don't believe so. They saw a problem, fixed it, and moved on. The backlash they got only got them not to throw in more hamfisted and terrible changes in the middle of an expansion, but rather wait until a new one.
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    At this point I expect SE to make an apology for the changes, but keep them in the game because they don't want to lose face - even though they know it's wrong to do so. They'll give us the promise of incredible plans ahead and "it's all going to be revealed at a later date".

    It's what started WoW's downfall too, so I'm not surprised to see the cycle repeat itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thursdays View Post
    At this point I expect SE to make an apology for the changes, but keep them in the game because they don't want to lose face - even though they know it's wrong to do so. They'll give us the promise of incredible plans ahead and "it's all going to be revealed at a later date".

    It's what started WoW's downfall too, so I'm not surprised to see the cycle repeat itself.
    That's most likely what's going to happen, yeah. Yoshida said that the 2nd LL would be to address and explain the changes, not talk about improving it. They think it's the right call to stick to them and hope that more weak excuses for them will make people understand their point of view more, and eventually forget about it in some vague hope that everything will be better in 7.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersblock View Post
    *snip*
    I agree, accompanied with no justifications for the unacceptable changes I'm sure of it. Though, some unlikely souls here would to the surprise of no one, say otherwise. Hehe, perhaps a individual that has changed their " achievements " very recently to private... I believe I touched a nerve hehe

    " Opinions based off experience, has more likely validity vs less or none "

    Thus if anyone happens to see " Very Valiant " frequent posters?
    Consider directing them to the " https://discord.gg/thebalanceffxiv "

    Open discussions, comparing takes viewable to experienced passionate longtime players, unbound by the FFXIV forum-format limitations. With a section for each Job including " SAM ". Though posh-wine-sipping-bs/ poor takes, specially with lack of SAM or general PVE-combat experience, could be called out by countless experienced players. Unless calculated/factual scrutiny, isn't their cup of tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersblock View Post
    That's most likely what's going to happen, yeah. Yoshida said that the 2nd LL would be to address and explain the changes, not talk about improving it. They think it's the right call to stick to them and hope that more weak excuses for them will make people understand their point of view more, and eventually forget about it in some vague hope that everything will be better in 7.0
    Unlikely,

    Valiant but unlikely
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    you really enjoy throwing random adjectives out don't you
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersblock View Post
    you really enjoy throwing random adjectives out don't you
    Why further persist for changes as though you’re stuck in limbo & under denial?

    It’s a wonder why even continue on.

    Kaiten is no longer present, nor will it return, the job still exists
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    I agree, accompanied with no justifications for the unacceptable changes I'm sure of it. Though, some unlikely souls here would to the surprise of no one, say otherwise. Hehe, perhaps a individual that has changed their " achievements " very recently to private... I believe I touched a nerve hehe

    " Opinions based off experience, has more likely validity vs less or none "

    Thus if anyone happens to see " Very Valiant " frequent posters?
    Consider directing them to the " https://discord.gg/thebalanceffxiv "

    Open discussions, comparing takes viewable to experienced passionate longtime players, unbound by the FFXIV forum-format limitations. With a section for each Job including " SAM ". Though posh-wine-sipping-bs/ poor takes, specially with lack of SAM or general PVE-combat experience, could be called out by countless experienced players. Unless calculated/factual scrutiny, isn't their cup of tea.
    You’ve taken a sweet delight & account for me; it brightened my day

    How long must you keep this charade despite something that once was & thus no more?
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