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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    I doubt its a coding issue. If they really wanted to they could revert it in the next patch. The issue is balance and not disrupting current content. They rarely make major changes to any job during any current content and that content right now is DSR which they wont mess with. 6.2 brings new end game and that is when we'll see changes to a lot of jobs.
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    Player
    Roxus's Avatar
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    Apr 2012
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    Shirogane
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    Ryuuko Souha
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Hey Square Enix, I just wanted to remind you that you promised an explanation twice now. You can at least have one of your forum staff write three words, "We hear you", to at least show that you somewhat care. Write it in Japanese, that's fine too. Being vague just doesn't work and I'm tired of it and so is everyone else. For YoshiP's vision of the game being a theme park for all types of players to enjoy, you've failed spectacularly. The game is amazing in so many ways, but job design and combat has gone too far in one direction.
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    Tamaerl's Avatar
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    Uularotto Urotto
    World
    Zalera
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    It'd be nice if we could hear *something* regarding what devs think so far about the recent changes they made. Do they think kaiten should come back? Do they think SAM is fine without kaiten? Any kind of response would be good so that we could know what they think about the SAM's current direction.
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    SiriusBreeze's Avatar
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    Aer'brialos Ur
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 96
    Bump for exposure, 6.2 is approaching. Praying for Kaiten.
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    Apr 2022
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Live-Letter was a let down to no surprise, yet a delay of the DRG and AST.

    The thread title still rings truthfully, changes that were unacceptable of which fixed nothing other then some damage fluctuations that didn't prevent any player from clearing anything nor made the job any less or more accessible then it already was. No response in 4 months, with their words " try it out " and " give us feedback ", which is rich. If they do want to put Samurai as a good example of what a burst melee caster should be? turning our high-highs into mediocre average lows? then the other jobs who love their big hits can just expect the same thing to happen i.e Ninja / Monk / Dragoon / Reaper heck even Dark Knight opener probably needs a change by Square's logic if that's the case. I hope not, I don't wish another job to suffer. I does nothing for us as a whole.

    Then again, I am expecting the worse at this point. Can you blame me?




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  6. #6
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    FynnLinster's Avatar
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    Character
    Erde Lunagem
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Bumping thread because I agreed with them.
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/467713

    "In previous Letter LIVEs, we mentioned that dragoon and astrologian would receive extensive adjustments in Patch 6.2; however, we’ll be postponing these adjustments based on the feedback we’ve received since Patch 6.1. Making extensive adjustments to a job on a fundamental level would involve numerous changes. The sheer number of changes would make it difficult to fully explain our intentions for each one, so we believe we should wait for an expansion release to make adjustments of that scale. With that said, rest assured we’ll continue to make minor adjustments."

    Well, the hopium was real it seems. Good luck SAM mains, keep fighting. Regardless I'm still concerned about why they would want to allegedly fundamentally change DRG.
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    KurenXIV's Avatar
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    Kuren Karashi
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    Siren
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/467713

    "In previous Letter LIVEs, we mentioned that dragoon and astrologian would receive extensive adjustments in Patch 6.2; however, we’ll be postponing these adjustments based on the feedback we’ve received since Patch 6.1. Making extensive adjustments to a job on a fundamental level would involve numerous changes. The sheer number of changes would make it difficult to fully explain our intentions for each one, so we believe we should wait for an expansion release to make adjustments of that scale. With that said, rest assured we’ll continue to make minor adjustments."

    Well, the hopium was real it seems. Good luck SAM mains, keep fighting. Regardless I'm still concerned about why they would want to allegedly fundamentally change DRG.
    RIP SAM and RIP FFXIV for me . . . fuck SE what a god damn travesty.
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    Vencio's Avatar
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Thank you!!

    I am glad SAM is remaining as it is!

    Happiest day for me today

    Now these endless Kaiten posts crusade can end once and for all!

    -sips wine-
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    Perhaps it's because English isn't my first language but I don't see anywhere in that post where it says SAM is or isn't getting Kaiten back. The slide it's associated with has "PvE adjustments" in it too, so it's not like it's impossible. The only thing I'm reading is that they're saying they're taking in the feedback they got from 6.1 into account and not radically reworking jobs until new expansions, which is a good thing IMO? Jobs shouldn't be messed with radically during an expansion unless they're in awful states, but also on the flipside this means more of "don't like what they did to the job? Wait until 7.0/8.0/9.0..." but given the fact that they mentioned 6.1 specifically, it does seem clear they understand that their changes to SAM/NIN have pissed off a lot of people, so there's that.
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