I swear this isn't the first post I've seen about adding back Kaiten. Tbh someone should start a petition to get kaiten back.

I swear this isn't the first post I've seen about adding back Kaiten. Tbh someone should start a petition to get kaiten back.



*looks at Tags of this Thread at the very bottom of the page* hmmm... >:

ive only recently come back to Samurai, definitely feeling the absence of Kaiten, but I'll hold back any criticism on the job until I feel it at lv 90.
It isn't much different. The burst might have a couple more things to do, but beyond that, the general rotation remains exactly the same as 60.
The kit is intact. It's just a little bit hollow, like a jenga tower had the wrong piece plucked and it's just waiting for a slight tremor to actually fall.

Revert SAM, please SE say something. Say anything about SAM. This was one of your most popular jobs. What did you do?


I would like to know why they removed Kaiten over something like Shoha. If anything Shoha is more of a shoe in that takes zero skill to use and is just another button that someone has to press, vs Kaiten which is an actual skill that takes practice to use right. That and the job already has OGCDs that someone has to track that are based on the kenki gauge.
In fact, they didn't just NOT remove Shoha, they added another Shoha for AOEs during 80-90, so instead of stopping button bloat, they actually added more back and it isn't even a good skill. FYI, I'm not talking that it lacks potency, but it is just not special in any way.

I'd like to see them implement the Drawout system from FFT for Samurai or some new sword based job, but preferably Samurai.
That'd be interesting. But I dunno how that'd translate given how the job currently is. Unless they do a complete rework of the job like they did to mch, which.. I think that'd be more damning than anything else given how vocal folks were the moment they mentioned kaiten being removed.
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