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    AndreasSolaria's Avatar
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    Toyohiza Shimazu
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    Behemoth
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun View Post
    Hello Devs.

    Sam still feel bad.

    Revert the changes ASAP.

    Yours truly,

    Amh (Now a Monk Main)
    Yeah i dunno if became reaper or dragoon main
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasSolaria View Post
    Yeah i dunno if became reaper or dragoon main
    I main Miner now. Mountaineer's Gift II uptime. And Decorator. Perpetual Float strat... .__.;
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    Gin'ei Mikazuki
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by cjbeagle View Post
    For me, the 6.0 changes actually made monk worse. OGCDs are rare outside of Brotherhood since Whirlwind Kick and Elixir Field got removed as OGCD cooldowns and repurposed as (GCD) Blitz finishers, so now monks basically do something cool once every 40s, and the time between those 40s windows is mind-numbing - and "something cool" is extremely subjective - personally I find their blitz finishers pretty underwhelming. Post-6.0, monk has become my least favorite melee - might be my least favorite job overall, depending on how summoner ends up (my summoner is only like 55 or something, but so far I hate it).

    EDIT: I just realized I responded to a response to someone else - apologies for the unsolicited opinions. x_x
    Just FYI, new SMN will play pretty much exactly the same from 50 all the way to 90, with only a slight change in how one your specific summon buttons work. Beyond those trait upgrades, it's not going to be any different. Been leveling for the role quests and there's no change between crystal tower and eden.
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    cjbeagle's Avatar
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    Nishi Il
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xAFROx View Post
    Just FYI, new SMN will play pretty much exactly the same from 50 all the way to 90, with only a slight change in how one your specific summon buttons work. Beyond those trait upgrades, it's not going to be any different. Been leveling for the role quests and there's no change between crystal tower and eden.
    That's...unfortunate. No wonder the thread about the summoner rework being disappointing has so much traction. =|
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    Theodric_Thorne's Avatar
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    Lucien Lancret
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    When is SE going to acknowledge us? I know SAM isn't the only job with issues but this is the most fired-up I've ever seen this community over changes to a single job. The silence from SE is deafening.

    In the meantime I've tried leveling DRG, BLM, and PLD, but I'm just not feeling it with any of them. Kinda curious to see how BLM evolves but at level 35 I'm literally falling asleep in Duty Support dungeons with it, so I suspect caster jobs just aren't my bag.

    I haven't logged in very much lately and I used to play once or twice a week. I miss the game. I haven't even done the 6.1 MSQ stuff, mostly because SAM is my only combat job at 90. Anything else has at least 30 levels to go to catch up.
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    Wyssahtyn's Avatar
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    When is SE going to acknowledge us? I know SAM isn't the only job with issues but this is the most fired-up I've ever seen this community over changes to a single job. The silence from SE is deafening.

    In the meantime I've tried leveling DRG, BLM, and PLD, but I'm just not feeling it with any of them. Kinda curious to see how BLM evolves but at level 35 I'm literally falling asleep in Duty Support dungeons with it, so I suspect caster jobs just aren't my bag.

    I haven't logged in very much lately and I used to play once or twice a week. I miss the game. I haven't even done the 6.1 MSQ stuff, mostly because SAM is my only combat job at 90. Anything else has at least 30 levels to go to catch up.
    BLM doesn't start getting good until 60 or whenever you get Fire IV. What criticism of the job there is is generally aimed at its leveling experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    When is SE going to acknowledge us? I know SAM isn't the only job with issues but this is the most fired-up I've ever seen this community over changes to a single job. The silence from SE is deafening.

    In the meantime I've tried leveling DRG, BLM, and PLD, but I'm just not feeling it with any of them. Kinda curious to see how BLM evolves but at level 35 I'm literally falling asleep in Duty Support dungeons with it, so I suspect caster jobs just aren't my bag.

    I haven't logged in very much lately and I used to play once or twice a week. I miss the game. I haven't even done the 6.1 MSQ stuff, mostly because SAM is my only combat job at 90. Anything else has at least 30 levels to go to catch up.
    Try ninja. I've been enjoying it since I've made the switch from Samurai. It kinda gives me same type of fast paced gameplay I liked from Samurai.
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    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    When is SE going to acknowledge us? I know SAM isn't the only job with issues but this is the most fired-up I've ever seen this community over changes to a single job. The silence from SE is deafening.

    In the meantime I've tried leveling DRG, BLM, and PLD, but I'm just not feeling it with any of them. Kinda curious to see how BLM evolves but at level 35 I'm literally falling asleep in Duty Support dungeons with it, so I suspect caster jobs just aren't my bag.

    I haven't logged in very much lately and I used to play once or twice a week. I miss the game. I haven't even done the 6.1 MSQ stuff, mostly because SAM is my only combat job at 90. Anything else has at least 30 levels to go to catch up.
    Try out Reaper. Its fast paced, simple to pick up and has a transformation ability you can use every minute or two (Just taking a broad guess with it. It's frequent though!).
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    Theodric_Thorne's Avatar
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    Lucien Lancret
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Try out Reaper. Its fast paced, simple to pick up and has a transformation ability you can use every minute or two (Just taking a broad guess with it. It's frequent though!).
    I've tried it, I just don't care for the initial flow of the job or its aesthetics.

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPeacElbow View Post
    Try ninja. I've been enjoying it since I've made the switch from Samurai. It kinda gives me same type of fast paced gameplay I liked from Samurai.
    I might give it a look, but I'm not sure I have it in me to level another job from 1-30. Frankly leveling alt jobs in this game is exhausting, particularly if you're a completionist who clears quests on each map as you go through the first time around instead of saving them for later. Level skips are ludicrously expensive and they skip over the job quests, which are the one thing I do like. Same thing with MNK. Looks fun, not sure I can stand to level it from zero. BLM is bad enough, I've plodded through 37 levels with it and it feels like the gameplay hasn't changed much at all from "spam Fire 1, Transpose, lob Thunder and/or Blizzard, Transpose again, rinse and repeat." Honestly not sure what Yoshi-P sees in the job, but I feel like I should keep leveling it to 50 or 60 before I write it off completely or else I'm being unfair.

    I just miss SAM, it's been my favorite job since it was introduced. Considering how many breaks I took during ARR and Heavensward I think I was just waiting for SAM to come along, because the moment I picked it up in Stormblood I was hooked. But with Kaiten gone and the damage spikes smoothed out, it no longer feels as exciting as it once did. The job needs its old flow back.
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    xAFROx's Avatar
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    Gin'ei Mikazuki
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPeacElbow View Post
    Try ninja. I've been enjoying it since I've made the switch from Samurai. It kinda gives me same type of fast paced gameplay I liked from Samurai.
    Am I still the only one that dislikes the 5.1 changes to Mudra from oGCDs to GCDs? I only have NIN in the 60s, but i really miss weaving that between my combos.
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