Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[FrogBiscuit]

6.11 just killed meme rotation, but I wasn't expecting 6.11 to be the rollback patch (but a small part of me still hoped!). Going to keep the fight for kaiten and Samurai going till 6.2, that's the earliest I think we can expect real feedback on Samurai's future.

As someone that notoriously hasn't kept up with patch date release schedules...

Do we have any idea of when 6.2 would be around? 6.2 is the general feeling I had also right from the get go, as far as a chance of getting a revert, or fix.


As obscure and infuriating as the changes have been, I fully expected SE to give their change some time to settle and see if the noise dies down after some time passed...
(Not to mention other classes of which have sat neglected for ages)

But I'm curious if we are thinking like 2 - 4 months?

I dread the idea that SAM will sit and languish in its decrepit and dull state all the way to 7.0.

[Quor]

As someone that notoriously hasn't kept up with patch date release schedules...

Do we have any idea of when 6.2 would be around? 6.2 is the general feeling I had also right from the get go, as far as a chance of getting a revert, or fix.


As obscure and infuriating as the changes have been, I fully expected SE to give their change some time to settle and see if the noise dies down after some time passed...
(Not to mention other classes of which have sat neglected for ages)

But I'm curious if we are thinking like 2 - 4 months?

I dread the idea that SAM will sit and languish in its decrepit and dull state all the way to 7.0.

Current patch cycles run for approximately 16 weeks, so we have another 14 weeks until 6.2, or roughly mid-August (the 16th, if 16 weeks is the actual length between 6.1 and 6.2).

[FrogBiscuit]

Current patch cycles run for approximately 16 weeks, so we have another 14 weeks until 6.2, or roughly mid-August (the 16th, if 16 weeks is the actual length between 6.1 and 6.2).

Yah, that is pretty disappointing to hear. Hopefully we see something before 6.2

Thanks for the details.

[Ruminous]

Yah, that is pretty disappointing to hear. Hopefully we see something before 6.2

Thanks for the details.

You wont. Get used to being a shinten bot or rerolling to another class. But at least SE fixed your button bloat issue, right? Or was it the damage issue? I forget which excuses they want to use. All I know is samurai is flat out boring to play. Have to play it for the first week of Dragonsong because SE screwed samurais over on gear and wont refund our tomes and books, and my god, being a shinten bot for an ultimate was still putting me to sleep.

[YukikoKurosawa]

What exactly was the logic behind the potency nerfs? God this sucks.

[Ascona]

I’m still very disappointed with the changes to Samurai in 6.1 and would very much like them to go back to 6.08 with a future update but I’m even more disappointed how they are handling the whole Situation.

There has been radio silence after the last PLL and pretty much every reason they gave us can be debunked in 5 minutes of playtesting the changes. Meanwhile we got like 4 Updates in the span of a week because of problems with the housing lottery. I’m not saying we shouldn’t get those updates on the housing lottery, but I feel not even acknowledging all the feedback is what makes most of the people angry.

At this point I just hope they clarify in the upcoming days if they are planning to revert some of the changes or going a different direction with the job. This way people can accept the changes and move on to other jobs or quit the game.

[xAFROx]

I’m still very disappointed with the changes to Samurai in 6.1 and would very much like them to go back to 6.08 with a future update but I’m even more disappointed how they are handling the whole Situation.

There has been radio silence after the last PLL and pretty much every reason they gave us can be debunked in 5 minutes of playtesting the changes. Meanwhile we got like 4 Updates in the span of a week because of problems with the housing lottery. I’m not saying we shouldn’t get those updates on the housing lottery, but I feel not even acknowledging all the feedback is what makes most of the people angry.

At this point I just hope they clarify in the upcoming days if they are planning to revert some of the changes or going a different direction with the job. This way people can accept the changes and move on to other jobs or quit the game.

Agreed. Some actual insight on the matter would be appreciated

[RHarris1349]

I agree with OP 120%, and to add to the “action bloat issue” I see Devs still haven’t removed Kaeshi: Higanbana. We don’t need a second Higanbana, I’ve used it maybe 5 times trying to work it into multiple enemy pulls and it’s useless. No one uses Kaeshi: Higanbana regularly, so why take away a basic ability SAM’s been using since Stormblood and not this crappy dot that cannot be used in high-level gameplay?

I’ve said it twice, I’ll say it again,

WHAT DID YOY DO TO SAMURAI JOB!?

NOT FAVORABLE.

[Roxus]

Hey folks, sorry for the late update. 12 hour shifts and all that.

Popular points on Samurai changes: Samurai are useless, baggage, dead weight. Continuous feedback asking for answers, suggestions being given, and theories on criticals. The speculation that this was all done for Dragonsong's DPS checks, and if so, how the hell is that justified when it's one piece of content? Are we designing jobs based on Ultimate only now? I guess so after what they said about healers. Keep in mind I am one of those people who do Ultimates, and I disagree with this garbage mindset. I'd rather play Scholar than Samurai right now and find it more engaging.

"This game is a failure as a game because it's dull before you can even play."