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  1. #61
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    Kallis's Avatar
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    Kallis Cursmali
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 90
    My only guess is that you haven't been lucky enough to experience proper usage of the cone, because your reply in no way addresses my point. I've healed all the msq duties and can tell you first hand, the difference between a WAR who does and doesn't use it right is like night and day. The fact that other tanks don't even get the option just doesn't make any sense, and is probably the only reason even WARs fail to understand how it works.

    I would love to have put an open invite out, to anyone on Primal (and soon NA), to come join my party and let me SHOW you what i'm talking about. It's 10,000% better for the healer, and basically all DPS except maybe ranged wouldn't mind either way.
    But that's not even an option anymore. Now no one will ever even know how good it was. The devs have to fix this. I understand "no one cares bc dungeons are cazul kontent" but come on, what kind of reason is that? It's making the game worse, maybe only slightly so, but it got worse with no good reason for doing so.
    in lieu of this, I went ahead and made a shitty mspaint guide to explain my point. I'd like to post it here, but alas I am actually r***'d and don't know how to do that. pending.....
    I would love to hear some actual valid reasons for removing this from my tanking toolkit.

    (7)
    Last edited by Kallis; 04-13-2022 at 04:55 AM. Reason: tried to post a visual aid, not sure how

  2. #62
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    Faafetai's Avatar
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    Tai Natuia
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 85
    I'm bummed out after playing new warrior, it was great with a controller, now it is not so much. I will adjust as I always do with these changes, but it's just kind of meh. I don't like it, but what can you do but say it is horrible tell them it is horrible. No one really will listen about it because everyone's preferences are different. The ironic thing is we have 3 other tanks people having trouble could play. But someone who favored the other have none.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallis View Post
    But that's not even an option anymore. Now no one will ever even know how good it was.
    I will always remember T_T
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    Last edited by Faafetai; 04-13-2022 at 04:49 AM.

  3. #63
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    DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise's Avatar
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    Daniel Negreanu
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    What? Overpower was never cone. It was always a circle.

    We got Cone truthers in here?
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  4. #64
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    Kallis Cursmali
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    We got Cone truthers in here?
    well that didn't take long. You know Galileo was always an idol to me, and now I get to know how he felt lol. It's like the world trying to convince me the sun is revolving around us! Does it matter, well, I mean i guess not? But why are we even having this discussion in the first place, look for yourself and see! It's plain as day!
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  5. #65
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    mr_grey7491's Avatar
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    Enceladus Grey
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Just did a dungeon and this change is awful. It just felt like garbage. The circle gave me NOTHING positive. Killed the classes range.

    Plus. WE HAD A CIRCLE > MYTHRIL TEMPEST. If people REALLY wanted to use a circle, let them just use that out of combo to pull. NOTHING STOPPED THEM.

    I main warrior, and don't play any other classes seriously and this change just killed some of the identity and the fun of the class for me. Just feels bad.

    Please let me know if there's a petition somewhere cuz This change is so bad, ill sign it.
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  6. #66
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    AziraSyuren's Avatar
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    Azira Syuren
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    What? Overpower was never cone. It was always a circle.

    We got Cone truthers in here?
    Makes sense. If you stack two cones then you can make a squared circle.
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  7. #67
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    Ralt21's Avatar
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    Ralt Hava
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_grey7491 View Post
    Just did a dungeon and this change is awful. It just felt like garbage. The circle gave me NOTHING positive. Killed the classes range.

    Plus. WE HAD A CIRCLE > MYTHRIL TEMPEST. If people REALLY wanted to use a circle, let them just use that out of combo to pull. NOTHING STOPPED THEM.

    I main warrior, and don't play any other classes seriously and this change just killed some of the identity and the fun of the class for me. Just feels bad.

    Please let me know if there's a petition somewhere cuz This change is so bad, ill sign it.
    i would sign it in a heart beat aswell.
    talking about mythrill tempest. that was something i would do. heck in the posibility that i might have missed some with the cone or they werent targetable when is was walking to the mobs. i would just go circle.

    the more i look at patch 6.1 the more i think that the people working at this dont play ff14 anymore. that means yoshida aswell. just because you purple with blm doesnt mean we can trust you with making other jobs just as good. the healer mains that cried in pain for years proved this. (been a leuker since shb, which is how i know the healer pain)
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  8. #68
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    marelooke's Avatar
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    Lomea I'ramaloce
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    After running the new dungeon (so no problems with "established tanking patterns") I actually hate this change even more.

    With no offense meant, but anyone who feels it's an "improvement", or that it "feels the same" must have just tried to tank on WAR as if it were any of the other three tank classes without actually attempting to play to its strengths.

    This circle-shape really is only an improvement to those that want to level all jobs without really learning anything new, and if that's the basis on which jobs are being changed...
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  9. #69
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    Dhaid Burt
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    Siren
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Man do I want the overpower back even more after running the new dungeon!! At one point you pull a mob and then theres some that spawn behind you, and overpower would have been the PERFECT tool for gathering everything up in a single gcd. Now you either remember the mechanic and just stay planted, or run forward and back
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  10. #70
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    Lomea I'ramaloce
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhaid View Post
    Man do I want the overpower back even more after running the new dungeon!! At one point you pull a mob and then theres some that spawn behind you, and overpower would have been the PERFECT tool for gathering everything up in a single gcd. Now you either remember the mechanic and just stay planted, or run forward and back
    Yes, those pulls are so perfect for pre-nerf Overpower. Makes it really sting some more...
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