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    marelooke's Avatar
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    Lomea I'ramaloce
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallis View Post
    In that case can we make all tanks the same by giving them an actual tanking tool, the cone AoE on opener. Cone-->circle AoE's is just proper tanking; if they wanted homogenization this would have been the only thing to make sense.

    Either that or my suggestion to just give us BOTH AoE openers, two separate actions. The casual tanks can leave the cone off their hotbars, while those of us who understand proper tanking and actually WANT to take the time to position mobs properly for the rest of our team, we can leave the circle off our hotbar. Simple easy painless fix and everybody wins. Why not?
    They never even bothered explaining the nerf, so we can really only guess as to their reasons, or go off of what those in favour claim they like about it, which really only makes it all the more frustrating. I still absolutely loathe this change every time I tank a dungeon, or anything that requires AoE, really.

    Maybe I'll just switch to BLM, at least that seems fairly safe from gratuitous changes. If only I hadn't gotten used to tank queues...
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    Deole Asura
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Glad to know I’m not the only one that thought this was a dumb change. I felt the cone had a further range but was like maybe it’s just in my head. See those 3 mobs kinda spaced apart bam hit all 3 keep on running. Now I feel like I have to wait for them to aggrieved and get close before I overpower. I liked it the way it was before.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deole View Post
    Glad to know I’m not the only one that thought this was a dumb change. I felt the cone had a further range but was like maybe it’s just in my head.
    No it wasn't in your head, the frontal range of the cone was longer.
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    They ignore everyone anyway, the forums only exist so they can point at them when requesting feedback that they already plan on disregarding.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    its because it would take extra dev time to make such a change. Though tbh the change to Overpower seemed like something that could have been done in less than a day let alone a few hours. I can tell it was a rushed changed because the Novice Hall NPC still says Overpower is a cone aoe attack.

    I didn't realize the devs became so averse to unique job perks. WAR already has access to 3 other circle aoes at lvl 90 via Decimate, Chaotic Cyclone, and Primal Rend. Heaven forbid they make Mythril Tempest into a conal aoe to match Overpower to give the player options in any given situation. This change is proof that the dev's don't trust the players to adapt and improve on their own.
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    They have now removed the bonus aggro gen from HoTs. Why are they making it annoying to tank instead of engaging?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    They have now removed the bonus aggro gen from HoTs. Why are they making it annoying to tank instead of engaging?
    Can’t stress the healer by doing literally anything that may cause them to actually make a mistake
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    They have now removed the bonus aggro gen from HoTs. Why are they making it annoying to tank instead of engaging?
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Can’t stress the healer by doing literally anything that may cause them to actually make a mistake
    One of the newer WHM probably died after placing Regen on their Tank AI in Stone Vigil Duty Support run. /s
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    Rashavenir Vidofsormr
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Been revisiting past dungeons as WAR to help out a friend go through story and the more I play this job, the more I hate this change even more. It's been difficult to group enemies effectively, forcing the mobs away from the party, and been struggling with even grabbing them. Sure it's "easier" to not target and grab them in a pinch (which I have found playing this in dungeons) but I will repeat that the advantages of it being a cone AoE greatly outweigh it being a circle due to range and positioning.

    I highly doubt they will change this back since Warrior skips are pretty popular in the Mogstation but one can hope. I still would love to see an option to toggle this at least.
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    I like Overpower like how I like my ice cream served, as a cone.

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    Lomea I'ramaloce
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Pretty galling they never even gave a reason for the change. I stuck with WAR after levelling it as my last tank because positioning packs was at least engaging in dungeons, now they're just trying to make it as braindead as they humanly can without reducing it to a single button (yet...)
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