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  1. #31
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    Neihel Aberola
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Terhix View Post

    You looked at when I joined the forums, and one mention of Xeno, and somehow concluded you know anything about me. No, sir, you are assuming my lack of experience, and that too is a fallacy.
    I also checked your public records and saw that you started raiding just this expansion so I am not assuming anything here
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  2. #32
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    Thane Ryder
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neihel View Post
    I also checked your public records and saw that you started raiding just this expansion so I am not assuming anything here
    I used to main WAR in ARR and early HW and only came back for EW, my actual game account might be older than yours. Not that it matters, because you somehow keep on agreeing with everything I'm saying except that this is a good change.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terhix View Post
    I used to main WAR in ARR and early HW and only came back for EW, my actual game account might be older than yours. Not that it matters, because you somehow keep on agreeing with everything I'm saying except that this is a good change.
    well those experiences are irrelevant and not consistant, because even your early public records show you barely did anything on those days
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  4. #34
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    Elise Leikupo
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    Lamia
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    Im just here to say that I didnt read any of the back and forth arguments. I just vote to make Overpower and Mithril Tempest cones!
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  5. #35
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    Ari Dyones
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Just adding my 2 cents here, and gotta say that overpower should've remained a cone.

    Yeah, yeah, I hear some of you quoting Xeno: "but circle aoe hits more stuff, the cone was so clunky, it sucked" yada, yada.

    However, warrior is the easiest tank, at least in aoe/dungeon fights. You barely have anything to do, except for positioning yourself and the trash. That is now gone! And I'm gonna be honest here; I still drag the trash even with my circle aoe, so they don't face my party. I could go right into the middle of the trash and bait all the aoes here and then miss half of them with my circle aoe because the 5y are sh*t.

    PS: Do you 'member that overpower was the only aoe able to hit all adds in Zurvan thx to its 8y range? I 'member.

    I am still waiting for Flood and Shadowbringers to turn into circle aoes, too. We can't have different shape aoes on tanks!
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  6. #36
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    Lillith Kasuga
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    Personally, I think Overpower becoming a circle is a good change and shouldn't be this debated on. Also, how do we know the cone range will be longer than the circle AoE coming in 6.1? They've never announced the official range the circular Overpower it at least from when I watched the live letters & checked the patch notes last night. Though I can be incorrect on this and have missed this being mentioned and I'm more than willing to know in which stream and time it's mentioned.
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    Last edited by ArataMPX; 04-12-2022 at 04:39 PM.

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArataMPX View Post
    Personally, I think overpowered becoming a circle is a good change and shouldn't be this debated on. Also, how do we know the cone range will be longer than the circle AoE coming in 6.1? They've never announced the official range for it at least from when I watched the live letters & checked the patch notes last night. Though I can be incorrect on this and have missed this being mentioned and I'm more than willing to know in which stream and time it's mentioned.
    The cone range has always been more than the circle, that information was always in Overpower's tooltip.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 04-12-2022 at 04:23 PM.

  8. #38
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    Lillith Kasuga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    The cone range has always been more than the circle, that information was always in Overpower's tooltip.
    When I said the information was unconfirmed I was specifically talking about the future changes. I know the current range is 5-yalms (Pre-6.1). But how are we so certain the radius forward is being changed to be shorter? Are they taking the current radius and then turning it into the overall diameter of the circle?
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    Last edited by ArataMPX; 04-12-2022 at 04:39 PM.

  9. #39
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArataMPX View Post
    When I said the information was unconfirmed I was specifically talking about the future changes. I know the current range is 5-yalms (Pre-6.1). But how are we so certain the radius forward is being changed to be shorter? Are they taking the current radius and then turning it into the overall diameter of the circle?
    No, the current range on Overpower is actually 8 yalms, changing it to a circle will reduce the range to 5 yalms in diameter to keep it in line with other circle aoes and technically the range is 0 because it is cast from your character, thus making it shorter. Overpower has 2 different tooltips, one for the diameter of the cone at it's maximum and one for actual range.


    Maybe this shoddy image will make it easier to explain.
    Overpower before 6.1 is on the left and every other tank aoe, which now includes Overpower is on the right.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 04-12-2022 at 05:27 PM.

  10. #40
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    Thepale Rider
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 90
    I don't like this change at all.
    If anything, Mythril Tempest should've been changed to a cone AOE as well.
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