I'm fine with this change. I didn't really have strong feelings one way or the other but if I had to choose, I'd go with circular AoE.


I'm fine with this change. I didn't really have strong feelings one way or the other but if I had to choose, I'd go with circular AoE.
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All I know is I used to do 5-7 dungeon rolos a day on WAR and thats probably going down to 0. Just played WAR in the new dunjin and I hate the change.
Just gonna say, I can tell this is actually a bad change bc the people asking to change it back have REASONS for wanting it back, and we're throwing up graphics and trying our darndest to explain how awful this is. Only arguments I've seen for keeping it basically boil down to "I don't really mind either way tbh lolz." This should be a no-brainer at this point, there are excellent reasons for a tank to have access to a basic tanking tool, and it's becoming increasing clear at this point the only people who are okay with losing it never understood the point in the first place. I'm not trying to bash on anyone for their level of understanding of ANYTHING, i just don't want to lose my basic bones tank tool. I wanna be able to keep tanking as gud as i do. If you wanna argue against this pls explain how i can do gud tanking w/o a cone bc i ain't seeing it. And I don't even see how the other tanks get by without it, so to me this has nothing to do with WAR job identity. All tanks should have this, be forced to learn how to use this, it's simply fundamental to tanking.

It was honestly more like this, but instead of making the indication easier for people they just got ride of it entirely. Highly doubt this will change much for little Timmy whose rotation was shield lob-->total eclipse--> fast blade, but who am I to judge.
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Just a bit off, the cone centered where it is here would only reach 8/10y across, 10 being the diameter of the circle. The point is that AoE ideally should be moving to properly reposition a chaotic pack of mobs, and face them AWAY from the party, same as with a boss fight no? So if you tried that and your next GCD is a 5y circle, you're hitting half the pack or less, while your aoe range is also seeing over half unused space. Completely nonsensical for any tank to not have a cone to use there.
No reason for this even to be a WAR thing, this to me is a fundamental tank tool. You may as well make PLD the "shirk" tank and take it away from the other three, it would make literally as much sense as far as I can tell.

U know, id understand ur complaints if all the aoes warrior had were cone shaped. Well they r not.
Being able to hit stuff from further away for pulls is irrelevant, u r the one doing the pull. Run into the mobs do one circle aoe and keep sprinting to the next pack. There is literally no way for u to hit everything with old conal overpower when pulling since the mobs r spread out and it needs a target, therefore u need at the very least 2 GCDs to hit everything. TIME LOSS.
Id much rather that if im not tanking the warrior just stays put and deals more dmg w/o having to move. It was not a braincell issue, it was a bloody annoying that u had to do that issue. Thank god it is gone for good. Ull come around eventually, circle is the way, it is known.
My only guess is that you haven't been lucky enough to experience proper usage of the cone, because your reply in no way addresses my point. I've healed all the msq duties and can tell you first hand, the difference between a WAR who does and doesn't use it right is like night and day. The fact that other tanks don't even get the option just doesn't make any sense, and is probably the only reason even WARs fail to understand how it works.
I would love to have put an open invite out, to anyone on Primal (and soon NA), to come join my party and let me SHOW you what i'm talking about. It's 10,000% better for the healer, and basically all DPS except maybe ranged wouldn't mind either way.
But that's not even an option anymore. Now no one will ever even know how good it was. The devs have to fix this. I understand "no one cares bc dungeons are cazul kontent" but come on, what kind of reason is that? It's making the game worse, maybe only slightly so, but it got worse with no good reason for doing so.
in lieu of this, I went ahead and made a shitty mspaint guide to explain my point.I'd like to post it here, but alas I am actually r***'d and don't know how to do that. pending.....
I would love to hear some actual valid reasons for removing this from my tanking toolkit.
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I'm bummed out after playing new warrior, it was great with a controller, now it is not so much. I will adjust as I always do with these changes, but it's just kind of meh. I don't like it, but what can you do but say it is horrible tell them it is horrible. No one really will listen about it because everyone's preferences are different. The ironic thing is we have 3 other tanks people having trouble could play. But someone who favored the other have none.
I will always remember T_T
Last edited by Faafetai; 04-13-2022 at 04:49 AM.

What? Overpower was never cone. It was always a circle.
We got Cone truthers in here?
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