Why do FCs get 75% of the wards?

[Fenril7]

You guys are dreaming if you think island sanctuary will take a place of a house.

There is a reason why there hasn’t been a lot of information let out about what you can and cannot do with that space. Once that information comes out on patch morning, guess we will have another dumpster fire on the forums.

SE had two plus years getting us ready for the firmament housing and what day did they spring the FC surprise on us?

[Jandor]

You should never trust what SE says and focus on what SE does. There’s a lot of time between when islands are supposed to release and when Zepla Gave the interview. I hope content doesn’t get cut for time but it’s always a possibility.

Wasn't it supposed to be 6.1 originally? Maybe it got pushed back because they've had an 'oh crap' moment and are desperately trying to shove a house into it.

Yeah... I'm not convinced either, but we live in hope.

Workshop, more living space in terms of rooms, and a far larger group to accommodate vs the single + few guest a private home could. There is literally 1 reason to get a private house and thats crossbreeding, so yeah FC benefit far more...

I mean, it's fun to have a private house, I've spent a lot of time decorating my house (and my apartment, and my private room, and even our FC house and some friends houses.) We are here to have fun at the end of the day.

Not that I disagree, I think FCs should have a better chance at housing than private players. Although personally I'd probably have split it so FCs are in the main wards and privates are in the subdivisions. 50/50 split, and it's easier to remember, and it lends itself better to any potential addition of extra wards in the future.

[Ayche]

It will be a small farm shed, really rustic.
Enough to fit a bed and a small stove. Just so you can log off there if needed.

[Yodada]

Zepla confirmed that with SE apparently about having a house on it with movable furniture.

EDIT: If it gives me what I am looking for in housing, I'd gladly drop my ward housing for a Sanctuary house and get off the grid.

Zepla only confirmed that she is clueless. Still wondering that the mistranslation of the translator is still spreading the Internet.

[Juun]

To be fair, Private Ownership dominated over 80% of ward until now.
If this is once time favor to FC it should be fine

If 80% is in favor for private ownership that should say enough about the demand of the market.

[DynnDiablos]

If anything FC should really be the only ones allowed to buy houses, way more people involved with an FC, not to mention they provide private rooms, sooo yeah... Devs really should have focused on improving apartments, upgradeable med or large sizes and an indoor crossbreeding planter and a majority of folks would be perfectly pleased. Theres really no reason a player should have any of the current houses...

Maybe people don’t want to be in an FC and would like a private space to decorate and call their own? Im in my house 95% of the time I’m logged on between running dungeons and while I’m crafting, it’s nice to be away from people

[DynnDiablos]

FC's need a place to hang out. My FC goes through great effort to decorate our house well and use it for just about every event we run. We chill there, we group up before raid there, we run fashion competitions there etc. etc. It's essential to our community and having moved to OCE servers it has been a sorely missed while we wait for them to be re-released. However, it was extremely challenging to get a house (especially a medium, forget large) having to compete with so many individuals. An FC house serves many players while a player house usually just serves one. In fact many of my FC mates don't even want their own house because we have the FC house.

So logically it makes 10,000% sense that there should be more FC houses. If you don't understand this then you are either just too selfish or have never experienced a good FC.

If your FC house decoration sucks then maybe talk to your FC leader and offer to help decorate it. Be the change you want to see.

I am selfish and prefer to play alone. So what of it? All of you folks acting like a majority of the people playing this game all want to gather around a fire and sing kumbaya my lord.

[Droxybrobotnik]

I'm all for focusing on collectives first, but when you screw over the possibilities of the individual for the collective then that's just communism, might wanna leave that to China, Square... Also, I could set up a shell company with my alts just to go for the large FC plots if I wanted to, a lot of people are already doing this, so this is meaningless. Just 50/50 it

[Illmaeran]

I'm all for focusing on collectives first, but when you screw over the possibilities of the individual for the collective then that's just communism

Japan is a capitalist democracy with an extremely collective-oriented culture. It should come as no surprise to us that their cultural norms are what they build the framework of the game on because that's how they think. In the case of housing, it would be better for the general player base for them to have much more in the way of personal housing options, absolutely. However; it's incumbent on we Western players to understand and respect that this is a game made by Japanese people who have a very different cultural outlook which influences their design decisions.

why 10k? A server doesn't have so many active players and you can bet for a FC house OR a personal house.

If you check out Lucky Bancho's recent census you'll see that servers can have 10,000 + active players registered on it even if the max load the server can handle is well below that. That's why we have Congested servers and queues...

Firmament was planned for well over two years, why did SE wait till patch morning to spring the 75% FC rule on us?

1. It's no secret that the fundamental philosophy of housing has been an FC focused thing. They only added personal purchase options when a good portion of houses didn't sell and the player base saw something they didn't have and cried out to get it. It's quite lopsided, but having so many wards be FC only accomplishes two things-

A. Gives FCs plenty of chances to buy a house if they don't have one or relocate if they want to move to Ishgard.

B. Fits their philosophy of FCs being the priority while giving individuals some chance at getting a personal plot, even if it's at the lip service level.

2. Prevent people from preparing shell FCs well ahead of time and cheesing the system even more than it's going to be cheesed. If you tell people that you can't trade FC ownership unless it has X number of players that have been in it for at least 30 days more than 30 days before opening housing it'll be a dumpster fire right out of the gates. Keeping things secret until the last minute is the only way they can prevent people from abusing the system. I think they learned the lesson that players will find a way to abuse any and all systems to get what they want even if it goes against the intention of the design. You can bet your sweet bippy that SE's been tracking housing data, have found the trends regarding shell FCs made for housing, and are well aware of people trading FCs for massive amounts of Gil and/or real money. The only way to deter/mitigate that is to give legit FCs the best opportunity to get a house as they can before the system abusers get into the game.

[Caurcas]

Collectivism is cancer.