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  1. #111
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Because an FC getting a house affects more players than a single player getting a house...
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  2. #112
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Because an FC getting a house affects more players than a single player getting a house...
    Does it though ? 80% of fc houses are empty, with one player in them ? Have you ever checked medium and large plots, and top tier small plots ? They are all 1 people fcs

    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    I kinda wish I would of used bots and macros to get a house but noooo, SE will fix this I said. My account will be put at risk I said. I kinda want to set up a fake fc as well and play dirty too since SE doesn't want to do anything about this but screw over people that actually want a house.
    This system is never going to be fixed because they genuinely dont care about it, this change proves it.
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  3. #113
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    Sage Cologne
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    Ravana
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Hi, I hope you are doing well. I am one of those persons who has a FC and 5 alts this is because If I recruit 6 players and they all leave then I am alone and after some time my FC will be deleted because I don't have enough members so to insure my FC stays alive forever I did this. All of us are 1st or 2lt in the Gc and all 5 have land permissions. We have since recruited 4 players and two quit playing the game and because I have 5 alts I can deleted them without losing my FC. Alts are FC insurance to get housing and benefits but yeah id love to have more members. A shell I am not ...... my FC is level 20 I did this alone with 5 alts in 6 months
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    Last edited by sagacious; 04-12-2022 at 05:45 AM.
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  4. #114
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    Mr_Gyactus's Avatar
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    300 houses for probably 10k+ people. Good effing luck.

    Guess I make a shell FC.
    why 10k? A server doesn't have so many active players and you can bet for a FC house OR a personal house.

    In my opinion, if there are more than 500 players for personal house x server (tomorrow for the first lottery) is strange.
    the second lottery will be different, but if you bid for a small it's almost guaranteed you win.
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    Last edited by Mr_Gyactus; 04-12-2022 at 05:48 AM.
    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

  5. #115
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus View Post
    why 10k? A server doesn't have so many active players and you can bet for a FC house OR a personal house.

    In my opinion, if there are more than 500 players for personal house x server (tomorrow for the first lottery) is strange.
    the second lottery will be different, but if you bid for a small it's almost guaranteed you win.
    6.1 will bring a lot of players back. And yes there will be a lot of people entering lottery for houses, and this adds a total of 300 houses for a massive amount of people who want one, which is absolutely ridiculous.
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  6. #116
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This is what people wanted, everyone was all up in arms, blaming bots for the terrible system, saying it was their fault, that 6.1 was going to save housing.

    Now this is what people get, they get the bot situation, but x100.

    Also this excuse of "FC houses hold more people so its fair there's a majority of them" is absolutely baseless, 80% of fc houses are empty, inside and out, used for submarines and abandoned left to rot outside of that purpose, its ridiculous that some people think this will encourage interactions between fcs when those fcs are dummy fcs to begin with, just made for housing for a single person as personal FC.
    Lets see as of per March 2022 the Light Data Center had
    10.286 FC Houses
    24.274 Personal Houses
    FCs in Total 39.629

    For Zodiark
    1678 FC Houses
    4082 Personal
    total of 6916 FCs.

    For those FCs which have a House on the Light Data Center a total of 1622 FCs are having less or equal to 3 Members.
    On Zodiark there are only 275 FCs with less then or 3 Members.

    Sry I call your "but i can see it with my own eyes" 80% nonsense. Its just a emotional inflated number which bares any logic.
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  7. #117
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Lets see as of per March 2022 the Light Data Center had
    10.286 FC Houses
    24.274 Personal Houses
    FCs in Total 39.629

    For Zodiark
    1678 FC Houses
    4082 Personal
    total of 6916 FCs.

    For those FCs which have a House on the Light Data Center a total of 1622 FCs are having less or equal to 3 Members.
    On Zodiark there are only 275 FCs with less then or 3 Members.

    Sry I call your "but i can see it with my own eyes" 80% nonsense. Its just a emotional inflated number which bares any logic.
    You are free to go take a look on your own then when the servers come up, take a look at the top tier plots for smalls, and at all mediums and larges.
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  8. #118
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    75% of new housing is reserved for the only mode of housing that can still be traded. Nice

    I wonder how many wards there will be with the same multi-gil-billionaire owning almost every house using alts and dummy FCs.
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  9. #119
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You are free to go take a look on your own then when the servers come up, take a look at the top tier plots for smalls, and at all mediums and larges.
    Give me the adresses you want me to look up and I do it. A bunch of a few outliers doesnt make your 80 % of all FCs are abonded more true.
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  10. #120
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    Saikhan Dotharl
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    75% of new housing is reserved for the only mode of housing that can still be traded. Nice

    I wonder how many wards there will be with the same multi-gil-billionaire owning almost every house using alts and dummy FCs.
    So much this, I just don't understand how they don't remember how bad it used to be.
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